Wormholes

1) They weren't "getting around phoebe jump changes" as they were using sub caps. You can at most move 3 caps through a wormhole with some sub-cap room in between the first two caps and the last one that shutters the hole. You know nothing.

2) Null seccers are just as risk averse as high seccers and they got a CSM Scumbag to convince the devs to nerf an otherwise valid game system. Not only that it was nerfed into the ground.

3) claiming sharing information is abuse is like saying setting standings to your neighbors is abuse.

4) Your hopes are stupid. Please continue afk ratting in ishtars, gilas and various carriers.

Plex prices will go to the roof with these additional safetys for null sec.

no null sec isnt safer at all, what with the poliferation in blops and what not.

Id rather say c5 is even safer than null to rat in tbh.

This goes does make a very fair, if blunt point.

Lowsec people and wormhole people are totally not risk-averse... The only person I ever found not being straight risk-averse is Tim, and he's rather naive instead

*He let's jump into that hostile fleet without any chance to even dent someone's tank unless all their logi DC at once* said no one, ever.

The great thing about a corp culture not centered around killboard stats.

I didn't say anything about low sec. I love low sec. There are plenty of risk-averse WH dwellers as well that have an advantage from these changes and I don't like that either. I want more null dwellers coming in and making a challenge. I don't know who Tim is or why you're referencing him. Reading some of these replies makes me want to put my head through a wall. Holding a single thought for a period of time beyond 2 seconds must be painful for some people.

scanned half another region before DT, about 50 systems

1 null - c6 went to a shattered system.
5 null > c5's
1 null > LS
4 null > c1-c3

2 null - nulls

about 10 K162
4 of which where from C5 space

Half the null - wspace where un initiated when I warped in.
which leads me to conclude as far as null - Wspace wh's go Null sec basicly is not scanning as much or completely ignoring wh's

Based on my logs,
Averaging 1 in 5 systems having a WH, one in 20 might have 2 wh's

And I can say the residents arnt rolling incoming our out going connections because there dosnt really appear to be any, Or no one is scanning and jumping into wh's

Id need some help to scan a whole region and get a snap shot at a specific time of day
(basicly autz) because its
a) less active
b) No one really rolls things around then.

If you get the locals all riled up, dont be ducking down any dead end pipes expecting to escape out of a random wh, You may just not find an easy way out..

I actually feel this is roughly the right level of null - w space currently.
and to a certain extent if null wants to engage in Wspace brawls there initiative to open connections should be a part of the equation.

People might splurge about how people are super safe in null or what ever, But that's frankly bull Sh1t. any one can literally camp what ever system they want in k-space when ever they want, with nearly what ever ship type or fleet comp they desire.

To get to specific w-space systems Is not impossible, But its many orders of magnitude higher and harder.

Thoughts,
I wish I had scanned some regions/ The same region in null prior to the changes so I could get some baselines prior to changes, all I have to go on is some randoms splurging its harder, but with no hard numbers to back that up. or what harder even constitutes in numbers of connections wise.

(Most groups I talked to dont trust certain scanning system providers) and are well aware of whom and who both uses and owns them.

CCP really needs to make an effort to build or accommodate an in-game sig / mapping bm sharing tool as a trusted party to hosting said data in some secure kind of way that only lets the right people on a alliance / coalition level access it.

Dank isk per hour!
Also I made roughly 4 bill in null doing data /relics in a bout 5 hours of work scanning things I would be scanning anyway but basicly ignoring in w sauce.

I scanned a whole region multiple times nearly uncontested, my only real threat where the people who didn't live in the region camping choke points.

There was no lack of incoming or outgoing wh's.
null to j-space where almost never initiated untill I landed.
If anything weekends seem to have more wh's in general than weekdays.

once your in null sec your ability to move around apart from a few choke points is pretty much uncontested.
and apart from a few groups like up in deklan, you can pretty much travel where you please.


Thus I would have to aggre with you, Null sec has never been safer for roamers

thanks for these useless medium ship holes to null

really appreciate them.