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Suggestion: Creeping fatigue in hi sec

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Tykonderoga
Bikini Bottom Surfer
Pandemic Legion
#1 - 2015-07-17 16:12:16 UTC
Given the relatively little risk in high sec, there needs to be a curve on the mobility of pilots. I suggest "Creeping Fatigue" as a solution. The more hisec gates you take, the more fatigue you accumulate, limiting your ability to project force throughout Empire. This will temper ganking and force people to stick to a few mission agents. You should just not be able to go whereever you want in Empire with the protection of Concord with no consequences.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-07-17 16:24:26 UTC
Are you Gevlon Gobin in disguise?

There is no need to limit the amount of jumps people can travel in hisec. All this would do is limit explorers and traders as most missioners would stick to a few local agents anyway.
Iain Cariaba
#3 - 2015-07-17 16:26:26 UTC
You'll have to forgive Tykonderoga. His great nullsec coalition failcascaded, so now he's desperate to retain at least some relevance to the game.
Tykonderoga
Bikini Bottom Surfer
Pandemic Legion
#4 - 2015-07-17 16:45:48 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
Are you Gevlon Gobin in disguise?

There is no need to limit the amount of jumps people can travel in hisec. All this would do is limit explorers and traders as most missioners would stick to a few local agents anyway.



But you get unlimited protection from Concord and cannot be bubbled in hisec. Sounds like a free ride to me.
Cellini Benvenuto
Ephemeral Syzygy
#5 - 2015-07-17 16:51:18 UTC
Tykonderoga wrote:
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
Are you Gevlon Gobin in disguise?

There is no need to limit the amount of jumps people can travel in hisec. All this would do is limit explorers and traders as most missioners would stick to a few local agents anyway.



But you get unlimited protection from Concord and cannot be bubbled in hisec. Sounds like a free ride to me.


I've travelled a fair bit through nullsec recently and in most systems, I see just the members of the same corps/alliance. It might be dangerous for me as an unattached player, but how is it dangerous for them?

Low sec, on the other hand, is free for all! And concord doesn't provide protection, just punishment!
Tykonderoga
Bikini Bottom Surfer
Pandemic Legion
#6 - 2015-07-17 16:53:06 UTC
Cellini Benvenuto wrote:
Tykonderoga wrote:
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
Are you Gevlon Gobin in disguise?

There is no need to limit the amount of jumps people can travel in hisec. All this would do is limit explorers and traders as most missioners would stick to a few local agents anyway.



But you get unlimited protection from Concord and cannot be bubbled in hisec. Sounds like a free ride to me.


I've travelled a fair bit through nullsec recently and in most systems, I see just the members of the same corps/alliance. It might be dangerous for me as an unattached player, but how is it dangerous for them?

Low sec, on the other hand, is free for all! And concord doesn't provide protection, just punishment!



We don't have an automated AI killsquad to deter and protect us.
Kandra Myu
Radiation Sickness
#7 - 2015-07-17 17:05:11 UTC
Tykonderoga wrote:
Given the relatively little risk in high sec, there needs to be a curve on the mobility of pilots. I suggest "Creeping Fatigue" as a solution. The more hisec gates you take, the more fatigue you accumulate, limiting your ability to project force throughout Empire. This will temper ganking and force people to stick to a few mission agents. You should just not be able to go whereever you want in Empire with the protection of Concord with no consequences.

nullsec crybaby, CCP changed things for you so you go all passive aggresive on the forums like a two year old child. This is of course exactly the type of infantile mentality we in highsec have grown to expect from the blue doughnut. so no big shocker.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-07-17 17:06:18 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
You'll have to forgive Tykonderoga. His great nullsec coalition failcascaded, so now he's desperate to retain at least some relevance to the game.


No I don't. Being irrelevant is no reason to come **** up the forums.

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Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#9 - 2015-07-17 17:14:23 UTC
Tykonderoga wrote:
Cellini Benvenuto wrote:
Tykonderoga wrote:
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
Are you Gevlon Gobin in disguise?

There is no need to limit the amount of jumps people can travel in hisec. All this would do is limit explorers and traders as most missioners would stick to a few local agents anyway.



But you get unlimited protection from Concord and cannot be bubbled in hisec. Sounds like a free ride to me.


I've travelled a fair bit through nullsec recently and in most systems, I see just the members of the same corps/alliance. It might be dangerous for me as an unattached player, but how is it dangerous for them?

Low sec, on the other hand, is free for all! And concord doesn't provide protection, just punishment!



We don't have an automated AI killsquad to deter and protect us.



guess you should upgrade then.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#10 - 2015-07-17 17:16:30 UTC
Tykonderoga wrote:
We don't have an automated AI killsquad to deter and protect us.

That is what it means to maintain your own empire, my friend. Why is that even a problem for you. In your other troll thread, you complained about not enough people to shoot in Null and Low sec. Having players to do tasks that NPC take over in Empire space brings you exactly that. Henceforth, considering this a downside of Null sec is a little bit hypocritical, don't you think? Roll

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Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-07-17 17:26:16 UTC
I believe the term we are looking for is 'hemad'

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The NPE IS a big deal
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#12 - 2015-07-17 17:26:23 UTC
Tykonderoga wrote:



We don't have an automated AI killsquad to deter and protect us.


Jump from Taisy into M-OEE8. Or Torrinos into EC-P8R. I think you will find something that might as well be an automated AI killsquad most days. Blink

In other news, your idea is embarrassingly bad.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Tykonderoga
Bikini Bottom Surfer
Pandemic Legion
#13 - 2015-07-17 17:34:19 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
Tykonderoga wrote:



We don't have an automated AI killsquad to deter and protect us.


Jump from Taisy into M-OEE8. Or Torrinos into EC-P8R. I think you will find something that might as well be an automated AI killsquad most days. Blink

In other news, your idea is embarrassingly bad.



You guys sit in a big ball of blue. Next comment!
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#14 - 2015-07-17 17:40:00 UTC
I'm not sure we are playing the same game. I felt infinitely safer when I was in a null alliance than I ever do in high sec....
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#15 - 2015-07-17 17:42:38 UTC
Tykonderoga wrote:
Given the relatively little risk in high sec, there needs to be a curve on the mobility of pilots. I suggest "Creeping Fatigue" as a solution. The more hisec gates you take, the more fatigue you accumulate, limiting your ability to project force throughout Empire. This will temper ganking and force people to stick to a few mission agents. You should just not be able to go whereever you want in Empire with the protection of Concord with no consequences.

Hahaha, clearly haven't spent much time in high sec.

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Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#16 - 2015-07-17 17:48:08 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

Hahaha, clearly haven't spent much time in high sec.


^^ this.

As someone who primarily does exploration/some industry, I feel infinitely safer popping around low-population LS/Null/WHs than I ever do in HS.
Haatakan Reppola
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-07-17 17:54:01 UTC
Tykonderoga wrote:
Given the relatively little risk in high sec, there needs to be a curve on the mobility of pilots. I suggest "Creeping Fatigue" as a solution. The more hisec gates you take, the more fatigue you accumulate, limiting your ability to project force throughout Empire. This will temper ganking and force people to stick to a few mission agents. You should just not be able to go whereever you want in Empire with the protection of Concord with no consequences.


Make it fatigue for taking any gate and ill support it Twisted
Iain Cariaba
#18 - 2015-07-17 17:57:21 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:

Hahaha, clearly haven't spent much time in high sec.


^^ this.

As someone who primarily does exploration/some industry, I feel infinitely safer popping around low-population LS/Null/WHs than I ever do in HS.

All those neuts in highsec... Ugh
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#19 - 2015-07-17 18:04:54 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:

All those neuts in highsec... Ugh


I lived solo in a WH for a while and honestly felt safer than I do most of the time in HS

It's hard to find a system where you feel relatively 'in control' of your territory in HS
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#20 - 2015-07-17 18:10:34 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
I'm not sure we are playing the same game. I felt infinitely safer when I was in a null alliance than I ever do in high sec....



Good point.

I definitely feel safer in Null Sec or Low Sec than High Sec. You never know which one of those evil neutrals is going to kill you in High Sec. In Null Sec and Low Sec, the answer is "All of Them!" so I am less paranoid and more careful.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

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