Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Two Basic Ideas -

Remove support skills and module requirement skills limiting Skill Points use to unlocking ships
When a new player joins a range unlocked ships are avaliable

This would allow players to more freely change corp / enter the game as new players / allow corps to try new fleet compositions

and/or

Allow plex for remap

This would allow players to experience all the different options within eve.
While this may be limited to monthly or 3 monthly remaps would be good to be able to try different aspects of the game without the need to start from scratch to move from pvp to mining or indy.

Eves a cool sandbox should remove the barriers from experiencing it.

What's your thoughts?

Thanks - Aran its 21 pages on pay for SP to win
Im not suggesting you pay for SP.

I also dont see the changes to SP suggested covered within that thread.

Some of those requirements....are kind of needed.

What benefit is a noob getting running a ship that has no base minimums? It will go boom....a lot. Then the noob may go well this game sucks anyway. I am in the top rated ship and it sucks ass.

I have seen this with 1 or 2 richer players in real life who etc'd to plex to instant "dream char" and eventually left the game regardless. Why? they had the sp and skill to have lots unlocked on the bought char....yet diaf'd quite often as lack of actual playing had them still dying....alot.

You see, actual skill is kind of picked in the "grind" of training. To hopefully not die as much when you reach your goal. you made your noobtard mistakes in the t1 grind phases and hopefully got most of that out of your system.


Or as I always says if you can't fly a t1 frigate or cruiser worth a damn, nothing magical happens in say AF or HAC's. Well your wallet magically drains a lot faster lol (as more expensive losses). Can't really play the game...the most uber ship is going to suck still because of pebcak issues.

IB4L
There are 21 pages of proposals suggestions and features which are coming from different angles and experience's points of view. And you simply CBA to read them? You don't even propose to change the skills, you are talking about skill points gain meta for a certain needs. There are many other threads with same ideas as yous which is marking your post as redundant by default. So please do your homework properly before you come to this class room.

Better
As soon as you inject Minig Frigate skill book, you are only allowed to fly Ore ships, ONLY

No you're suggesting we rebuild the entire skill tree "because reasons"... and Choices have concequences, and skillpoints are never wasted you can now just ALSO use drones/ishtars/hellcats/bootcarriers/trackingtitans/whatever you had your SP in before the remap...

The barriers are illusory--it's nothing you've done wrong but it struggles in presentation. It is just so easy to believe things that aren't true that make it seem difficult, while the most difficult thing about starting the game is really just finding out how to do it right.

Your best bet is finding one of these vets who tells you your idea is complete crap. I'm serious. When I came in, I thought they were just antagonizing me for the sake of being mean, but I see now that EVE is a place that defies all your prior reasoning. Just abandon your pre-conceived gaming notions, find a bitter vet who will teach you, and listen to them. Fly a frigate, you may mine but definitely PVP and do it in a fleet with bitter vets. Show them you want to learn and you'll probably receive free ISK to help you get started. Spend it toward your learning, but get used to making your own.

But above everything else, go PVP. This is a "PVP game", or more accurately, it's a giant social experiment in which people interact with each other to create content. You'll only see that content out on the front lines. So go out there, find out what's happening in your tiny niche of the game, and then you can determine what you want to do long-term in EVE.


edit: oh and I'm serious about flying a frigate. I don't care how long you've been accumulating skill points/ISK or how easily you can afford a fresh battleship. If you're new to fleet PVP, you should fly a frigate simply because it's just going to give you the best performance. If you want to splurge, then get an interceptor or assault frigate.