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Nobody is forcing people to use alts, get dedicated pilots to do the job.


Sure there is, it gives them another job other than being an F1 monkey.

It was fun and enjoyable to be a fleet scout back when we had no fleet commands at all. Its good to be bringing back content we have lost over the years in the name of catering to the lowest bar of player laziness.

While you are digging around in the code, please be magicians and code some miracles:

- Greatly increase the number of bookmarks we can copy at a time, or better yet, eliminate limits on copying bookmarks. Currently, it's 10 at a time, but as the need to create and disseminate bookmark packs will be higher, making copying bookmarks less tedius would be nice.*

- Make it so that anything that can be broadcast, can have a shortcut key assigned to that broadcast. For example, you can't assign "align to..." broadcast to a shortcut key. (I've been begging for the ability to assign a shortcut key to broadcasting "align to," "warp to," and "jump to" broadcasts for about four years now... eternal optimist, I guess ....)

- Alliance bookmarks. *

- Bookmarks that automatically expire after a set time.

- Be nice if we could broadcast align/warp/jump to anomaly's (not the ones you scan out, those are signatures, right? )

*Yes, I know we'll be able to broadcast warp-to-bookmark, but you can't broadcast warp-to orders to objects not in the same system as you currently, and I suspect that won't change. We've got a lot of out-of-corp/out-of-alliance scouts/skirmishers who we'll have to set up with more complete and/or new bookmark sets.

Serious question: How will the large increase in separately-handled warps affect server load? Currently when we align then warp as a fleet, our warp is treated as one warp instead of 30-40 warps, all on the same server tick. (Not claiming I know anything about how the server actually handles fleet warps, but this is how it's been explained to me for years). With this change, there will be multiple warp requests across multiple server ticks, will this impact server load?

So much tin foil in use here you could bake a potato.

I guess I'm confused. 1st, I'm not a PvPer. 2nd I pay CCP for a lot of accounts that I mine ore at times with, it takes time to get each toon setup to mine, but I am a heavy EVE player and have always had the safety of fleet warp to keep all my ships from being ganked. Now you are saying it is not fair that I pay for many accounts and have a way of warping them all at once to safety as an active player? Why do you advertise "The power of 2" and even state mining if they are not equal? If you are removing fleet warp, remove it. But not just for the people you don't seem to care about. Be fair and remove it for everything/ everyone. Be they PvPers, PvE.
WH people will suffer from this in many ways. Isn't this game to be somewhat realistic future stuff, how is "You can only fleet warp to public areas" realistic? That is just changing the game to help certain people not the whole.

And if this is all going the way it looks, will those of us with multiple account that pay months at a time be allowed a refund as the multiple accounts become useless in the new change?

As I understand it fleet warping isn't even going away. It's just being trimmed a little?

And there you have the problem - the problem that has been there for 5 years. As the system was designed, all the work is in finding out where in system the thing is, and then narrowing it down sufficiently to be able to warp to it. The design works well for the game when looking for sites, and reasonably well when looking for ships that are in system somewhere, but you aren't sure where.

With fleets of any decent size, the parties involved will frequently know roughly where the opposing fleet is - or can find out fairly quickly. Once the fight starts, it is pretty obvious. No work is involved because the design of the probing system puts all the work in the finding. You can't fix this without changing the design/adding complexity, and in doing so impacting system wide scanning (site and ship). One suspects that this is the reason why the probing system remains as it was introduced in/around the Dominion release despite its impact on combat.

Tar-Palantir wishes Manfred Sideous much luck pushing for a solution to problems caused by probing - he will probably need all he can get.

Trust must be earned, and to earn it you have to allow it. Therefore those FC that learn to trust their scouts, through experience, will be triumphant and those, for whatever reason, that can't will opt for the suboptimal alt-ernative and fail. It'll be like shooting obnoxious FCs in barrel.

Decreasing the neuroticism of FCs is unfortunately outside of the scope of possible game changes, .

I'm just not sure how you think this reduces the time it takes for a fleet to land on a probe hit.

I mean, if you'd said 'PL's stock in trade has been caps and supers so long, the ex-PL devs think everyone's doing as little as the guys in an Aeon blob are', I might've bought that...

It has been stated many times in this thread. From in depth analysis to simple basic words in short sentences for the mostly brain dead. Just because you stick your fingers in your ears and run around in circles screaming, 'la-la-la I can't hear you!', doesn't mean it has not been said.

is it that hard to get for ccp to not change something that works just fine.