Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It's called ECM

He didn't say missile specific

/pendant


Besides, if missiles get TD, guns should be smartbomb-able. I mean if we're making them all the same and fair and equal ;)

I believe they are on sisi

When these adjustments are complete will you be ensuring that missiles will not hit for 0 points of damage?
Or will the application of these e-war changes effectively give targets sufficient speed to escape the explosion radius?


Always scoring 'a hit' was one of the few strengths of missile usage.

Firewalling missiles with smarties is being made more difficult, all the way to possibly so difficult that it is done away with. Are you not following all the changes that are being made?

Besides that firewalling is not used in FW and lowsec in general due to standing and or sec level hits from the use of smarties. Also, smarties are in the game as another antidrone defense, other than waiting on the drones to get targeted and then shoot them. Oh, how about that reasoning back at ya. I should be able to target missiles and shoot them.

There should be something in the game to evade missiles, since defenders are worthless and require a launcher slot anyway. These new missile tracking mods are reducing the extreme speed or sig defenses. Both of which defenses are neither missile specific since they both can be used to evade turret tracking as well.

A game with no effective specific anti missile ewar, but an effective specific anti turret ewar, will not be balanced.

Not really true. Firewalling will still exist, and you can use it as a defensive advantage by using Smartbombs "force" missile chuckers into using the matching damage type...to which you fit your tanks to super tank against that type. Added HP will help missiles make it through, but you are still going to mitigate a lot of DPS.

Tried them out on Sisi, bunch of bugs.

They stop during warp (pretty sure other tracking computers don't).
When I removed a script, stats didn't change, neither on guidance computer, nor on launcher. It were still working as if it's scripted.

These modules really allow you rob Peter by paying Paul, so there's definite tradeoffs. More likely se'll see fits that previously had 4x BCUs run a passive MGC instead since that will easily offset the +2.5% damage of the 4th BCU.

I would like to wonder how many different E-War modules we would have to carry with us and how do we quickly refiit Trackdis with Missiles one in PVP engagements? Why not to allow existing tracking disruptors work against new feature?

These things are overpowered to the point of being broken as it stands. A single range-scripted MGC increases range by 42% whereas a range-scripted tracking computer gives a 15% increase to optimal and 30% to falloff, which is much less powerful. It's harder to directly compare the difference in damage application between a tracking-scripted TC and a precision-scripted MGC due to the differences between the tracking and missile damage equations, but in practical terms the improvement in application that you get from the scripted MGCs is vastly more significant than a 30% boost to tracking on a turret.