Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So. Let's just set this out: The Corax is a piece of ****. The fitting, slot layout and bonuses are insane and totally at odds with each other. Let's go over why it's a joke of a ship first up, for the sake of those who've come back to Eve after a 2 year gap:

The slot layout makes it, in theory, a pretty capable rocket brawler. But its bonuses are for range and explosion velocity, both of which are utterly wasted on a rocket setup. Explosion velocity is wasted on rockets because most webbed/scrammed targets take full damage anyway. The range is similarly wasted because who the **** would fly a 15km range rocket dessie? I don't even need to go into how useless that bonus is for that weapon system. The fact it makes the average titan look fast only compounds the "lolworthy brawler" problem.

But hey, ok, rockets aren't the only frigate weapon. Let's light missile fit it! Those take fantastic advantages of the bonuses on this ship, and fit with the general Caldari philosophy of providing long ranged fire support.

Oh wait, you're over on grid at max skills with just a DCII, BCU, and MWD with light missile launchers. Well this is off to a great start.

Let's try throwing on a couple of target painters. Meta 4, 16 CPU ea- oh crap now we're at 253/262 CPU.
At max skills.
With a mid slot still free.

Ok you probably don't need any more on how the ship is terrible, whole essays could be written on that. Let's talk fixing it.

It's pretty obvious what this ship is meant to do, but it doesn't have the fitting space to do it. Buff the power grid to the point where it's at about 66 with max skills. That allows for a full rack of lights with supporting mid/low modules, but you still need to compromise somewhere to get a heavy tank on.

Additionally: buff the CPU to the point it's in the region of 300 with max skills, because being over on CPU with the bare basics of a light missile fit, on a Caldari ship, is ridiculous.

The Corax could be a workable ship, but it's got a totally schizophrenic array of bonuses, slots and fitting room and there's no reason to fly it. The fix however is so laughably simple though that it's well worth doing.

Well I figured I'd throw in a few actual reasons it's a joke of a ship for people who legitimately don't know.

Then I threw in a lengthy rant afterwards because what the hell.

Good for them. They found a niche, skill-intensive "role" that could be done better by numerous other ships. I'm legitimately surprised someone has actually come to the defence of this waste of database space but hey.



The Corax lacks the speed to be a proper brawler both in terms of tackling and range dictation. Having an entire bonus wasted just for a rage-rocket induced damage boost is similarly stupid, when other ships can do the same job better.



Ridiculously stupid "role" that other dessies do better, and without needing support ships I might add.



An incredibly tiny FW niche is not a reason to gimp a ship.

I've yet to see a legitimate argument for this ship being adequate.

I would recommend re-reading the OP. It points out quite bluntly that the new modules don't help at all, because the CPU on this ship is a joke. That and it doesn't exactly need tracking mods because it has... you know... a bonus for it.

Thanks for commenting, but would've been nice if you'd taken 20 seconds to read what the actual problem is.

Or if you knew the first thing about the ship in question, that'd be good as well.

[Corax, corax lml]

7x Light Missile Launcher II (Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile)

5MN Microwarpdrive II
Sensor Booster II (Targeting Range Script)
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Small Shield Extender II

Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Small Rocket Fuel Cache Partition I
Small Ancillary Current Router II

That's about the best I can do with LMLs. You could swap the Small Extender and put in a meta4 sensor damp.

Targets at 90km, range to 87km with faction missiles. Will still get killed by the Talwar, hence the sensor damp suggestion.

[shrugs]
Agreed, a few points of CPU added would let you fit the DCU in this fit. The meta DCU's cost more than the bloody ship...

[Corax, Corax?]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Small Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 25
Small Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 25

Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Ancillary Current Router I