Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Of course ecm and damps don't effect turrets as well And flying in a way to reduce tracking doesn't either.

Your list is only firewall. That was never meant to be the counter to missiles. It was created to address the lack of a dedicated antimissile ewar when Drakes were everywhere.

I like missiles, I don't like these changes. None of these ships were designed or balanced with these extra modules in mind. Turret ships are designed with the idea in mind that you need "x" number of slots for offensive and "x" number of slots for defensive while maintaining the option to choose between the 2. Missile boats were NOT. All this if going to do is put a few pathetically weak ship fits out there that people will try and then say "screw that." With most of my missile ships now the tank is comparable to turret ships, dps is less but application (in most cases) is pretty good. So you're making modules that
A. Are just going to reduce the missile boats tank and/or dps so that they are (even more) sub par.
B. Do nothing to actually increase dps, just improve application and range.
C. If anti-missile modules are introduced missile ships will just become more worthless and speed will continue to be king.

Perhaps in null-sec where engagements might be more likely to happen out in open space with large alpha fleets the range and application improvements might be worth while. But in FW space where most combat takes place on a button and where anything outside 20k just means you don't have point, your target leaves at will. So you can take your 100km range and ... well needless to say I don't want it. But pretty much everything lately seems to be all about the null-sec so I guess it's on deaf ears anyway.

This entire thing seems very poorly thought out and should not be introduced unless part of a fully worked package of missile ship balancing, DPS and EHP balancing, improvement module balancing, ammo balancing and counter-module balancing. This just reeks of the same lack of real consideration that was put into polarized modules.

If missiles are weak, buff missiles. Injecting new modules just complicates things and creates new issues all across the spectrum.

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In the past the only way to diminish your explosion radius and velocity would have been through the use of specific rigs, grabbing a set of implants or find a hull that filled the desired bonus to precision or range.

With these new modules giving bonuses to four respective stats, doesn't these make the rigs obsolete specially since having your computers scripted offers almost a bonus of 20% for both precision or range stats and they only offer one bonus in one of these areas? Will CCP be planning to bake Flare / Rigors, Fuel Cache / Bay Thrusters into each other in the future, and maybe perhaps looking into the penalties associated with these?

Edit, also you're not taking into account to fit these new modules you either a ) give up dps for trading in a BCU or b) give up EHP with losing a mid slot that would be used for shields

Which appears to be getting various module and ammo treatments to dissuade the use of it. Watch the o7 show and read the blogs. Firewalll was an ingenious invention of players to address the lack of missile defense when Drake missile spam was omnipresent because drakes were omnipresent. And with the perma mwd drakes it wasn't always effective. But now it is getting nerfed. So there will be a need for a dedicated antimissile ewar.

btw also
How about Remote Missile Guidance modules for logistic ships?