Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Heyo

It's getting pretty close to release and I have a lot of balance changes we need to talk about!

This thread is for discussion on a package of missile changes that we are pretty excited to see the results of. So what's in this package?

Missile Guidance Enhancers - Low slot modules that increase missile explosion velocity, lower explosion radius, increase missile flight time and increase missile velocity

Missile Guidance Computers - Mid slot modules that increase missile explosion velocity, lower explosion radius, increase missile flight time and increase missile velocity. These modules can use Missile Precision and Missile Range scripts and can of course be overheated.

Heavy Missile Damage is being increased by 5% for all Heavy Missile Types

Torpedo volume is being reduced by half, meaning you can fit twice as many Torpedo's in all launchers (except polarized, which have had their capacity reduced) as before.

Some specifics on the new modules:

We are starting with 3 types in each group. Tech I, Compact (lower fitting requirements), and Tech II. Faction variations would certainly be on the table for later releases when we are happy with the tuning of numbers on these first mods.

The numbers:

Missile Guidance Enhancer I
10 CPU, 1 PG, 4.5% bonus to explosion velocity, explosion radius and 5% bonus to missile velocity and missile flight time
Pro-Nav Compact Missile Guidance Enhancer
8 CPU, 1 PG, 5% bonus to explosion velocity, explosion radius and 5.5% bonus to missile velocity and missile flight time
Missile Guidance Enhancer II
15 CPU, 1 PG, 5.5% bonus to explosion velocity, explosion radius and 6% bonus to missile velocity and missile flight time

Missile Guidance Computer I
28 CPU, 1 PG, 5% bonus to explosion velocity, explosion radius and 4% bonus to missile velocity and missile flight time
Astro-Inertial Compact Missile Guidance Computer
24 CPU, 1 PG 6% bonus to explosion velocity, explosion radius and 4.5% bonus to missile velocity and missile flight time
Missile Guidance Computer II
35 CPU, 1 PG 7.5% bonus to explosion velocity, explosion radius and 5.5% bonus to missile velocity and missile flight time

These are set very close to the corresponding turret module numbers and may need adjustment after deployment.

We would have liked to include disruption modules to go along with these enhancement modules but there are actually some technical hurdles we need to figure out and we didn't want to keep holding back on adding these in the mean time. Look for those sometime in the future.

Let us know what you think!

Now we need only some effective EWAR that works on missiles.

Any thoughts on the effectiveness of SmartBombs on missiles and the ability to firewall them?

are you going to nerf the base range/application of any missiles to compensate?

specifically i think nerfing light and cruise missiles by 1 TE would be good, cruise because you're gonna have enough slots on a battleship to get it back and beyond what it is already (which is pretty good) and lights because lights are already very strong and adding more options for them might push them to oppressive on destroyers and below

your idea is bad. missile boats are in a bad enough state as it is.

posting in ccp rise thread he is my faverite.

Ground floor!

Looks like this will help some... fingers crossed HAMs are a viable weapon system with this.

I still think all missiles could do with their velocity doubled and flight time halved, like the mordu ships' bonus.

CCP did you mix up Computers and Enhancers?

Tracking Computers are weaker than Tracking Enhancers, but they can be scripted to perform better than the Enhancer in the scripted trait's effect.

Currently you've listed the MGC to be FAR more effective (31% more) than the MGE, while retaining the ability to be scripted.

Missile Guidance Enhancer II
15 CPU, 1 PG, 6.5% bonus to explosion velocity, explosion radius, missile velocity and missile flight time

Missile Guidance Computer II
35 CPU, 1 PG 9.5% bonus to explosion velocity, explosion radius, missile velocity and missile flight time

Unless you're going to let the Enhancers be scripted?

or perhaps he listed the max values with scripts loaded.

That's damn spiffy for a T1 Ship. A bay of ammo will cost almost as much as the rest of the ship.