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I'm sure they would love to have another ccp provided vacation (aka emergency meeting) but it's not happening. CCP is saying get #%@$ed.

Just when I thought I've seen all the fail in CCP there is, they manage to surprise me by revealing a whole new magnitude of it.

Instead of pointing out how hard CCP failed to accomplish their design goals and rather than explaining why the chosen method, the underlying idea to design the new icons is unbelievably dumb, I just want to add something CCP apparently did not consider:

EVE is a game I and others used to like - enough to pay for more than just 1 account - and I'm pretty sure most won't leave light-heartedly. But in the end, it's just a game. And when this game is no longer entertaining but a source of stress and anger (because of some "improvements" implented by some know-it-alls), it just might be time to move on.

Or to put it in other words: I'll bet that I can keep up not paying them far longer than CCP devs can keep up not getting payed.

Wow, so after 90+ pages of very detailed feedback with numerous posts explaining why the new icons are not helpful... we eventually get a devblog like that.

Anyway... it's pretty clear this mess is not going to be fixed any time soon.

I myself am not going to quit over the icons (would be difficult, as I have subbed for a whole year fairly recently), but I can see people really are quitting or at least not logging in... I am moving around a lot in hisec and lowsec and the universe of EVE is becoming emptier and emptier by the day. And I have already been here a year ago and the year before that, so don't tell me it happens every summer... it did not feel like that in 2014 or 2013.

Wonder if CCP 'gets it' before my current subscription runs out.

thx ccp : for your honesty in giving a big fat FU to the playerbase !

Objective failed. Takes me 4-5 times as long to read in one part of the grid, and I have logged a significant number of hours in the game since the patch.


Objective failed. All the objects look exceptionally similar at a glance.


The ship tree is a very useful tool, but it's purpose is a reference tool. One does not open a dictionary in time sensitive situations.


I'm sorry, but that is just another callous brushing off of the players who have had their entire gameplay ruined by these icon changes.


Counting the hits, ignoring the misses, confirmation bias, etc.
Where is your concern for the people that that have NOT benefited from this change? Thrown under the bus, that's where!

Old Icons, or at least the option. That is what the noise is about, and you seem to have very selective reading of criticism there.

That dev blog aside from explaining why you changed things, did nothing but patronise us and gave us nothing to look forward to. Good riddance

There are many games out there which I would like to play, but I don't really have the time to learn something new. I don't even have the time to play eve any more, but I still pay religiously for my 4 accounts by direct debit. - Dutifully training skills on pilots I rarely log in, with some level of obedient addiction.

I play eve for 10+ years because its like a really nice comfortable blanket. I know all its funny corners and ruffled edges and those edges seem to match my own, like I am one and part of the same quilt. It is all the more comforting, because that blanket was so barren and hostile when I first encountered it. And I somehow, against the odds made a home here.

The new icons are awful, I don't need to go into detail but just sit on any gate with a cov ops in any system and shout when you see another ship on the gate with you. I would guess most will either not notice or notice late the appearance of a ship as the icons are so similar in your tertiary vision they all look exactly the same.

The genius of the old system was to make the icons different enough, for you to be able to focus on all the other EVE stuff going on, whilst scouting or looking for npcs or whatever people like to do. You could instantly see a change in your tertiary vision, and act. - BTW try the new icons in FW its a whole barrel of crap. - your overview is full of blobs.

What's the risk here? Well from reading these 100 pages of replies it seems people are calling these icons out for what they are - an ill thought out design, unwanted by the general player base.

The risk is, if you change the comfortable blanket too much, people might just decide to buy a new one, one which is much more their cup of tea, much warmer with new microfiber technology & doesn't sting them for 10 pound a month.

Just unsubed 2 accounts. One of them was a 10yr vet =\...

CCP doesn't listen to what the players want....

I built a corp recruited a douchebag, got robbed and made a new corp. Never to again recruit outsiders or join another corp so I became a lone wolf.

I mined, did missions, and explored for years and waited for the day to be able to build a pos, finally built it just to get war dec'd and blown up for no reason and lost it.

I took the day off from work to destroy and capture my very own customs offices from Interbus when that patch came out that day... I had the poco's for a year or so before I was war dec'd again for no reason and lost those...

Anything that I have tried to accomplish, build, or do in EVE gets destroyed due to the ever changing game mechanics and I've kinda had it...

We all know that it takes months of mining, mission running, skill training, and honest grinding to get anything of value in EVE. What is the reward for months worth of work? Not a damn thing! You can lose that huge amount of hard work in 5 seconds....I have watched for the past 10 yrs all my hard work go down the shitter...

I feel stupid for sticking around for so long hoping that CCP would help the ''lone wolfs'' but this is not that kind of game.
It's either you join a mega alliance or get griefed into unsubbing.... Not really a ''sandbox'' if you ask me...

I don't PVP and after my first experience of getting wiped out in a corporation I don't trust anyone, I am just a humble miner/ mission runner manufacturing goods for the hungry war machine trying to make a living... Is that too much to ask?

At one time I had 4 accounts I was paying for.

I will be down to 1 after today.

I will keep my main active just to see if CCP smartens up. =)

Gonna be on the lookout for No Man's Sky and Star Citizen in the meantime and see what they have to offer.

"We are aware that a sudden and drastic update to some small but very important space symbols may have inherently vaporized several trillions of ISK from the economy. As pilots undocked expecting their familiar foes to be square brackets and crosses they unexpectedly came under attack by chevrons, diamonds, and house-shaped adversaries armed to the teeth. Some were so spooked and disoriented they began to fire on any geometric symbols in their vicinity. Others believed they were being attacked by their own warp bubbles and returned fire… Those that managed to adapt quickly in the early days of the great Iconocalypse of 2015 certainly profited handsomely from the confusion it sowed."

"But in New Eden space is merciless, and change is ever-present."

- CCP Surge

ROFL, yeah about sums it up! At least in the blog they have plans for people to go in and make every single object in space customizable to Papa Bear, Mama Bear, and Baby Bear Red Crosses. That way people can divert much needed brain cells back to functions like breathing, blinking, and digestion...

The Icons are great! And I have never been as entertained this much by a forum thread before! lol...
Would get rid of some of the congestion around Jita, if all the people crying with guns to their heads threatening CCP they'll pull the trigger, actually do it....

The SIMS is a nice game, it's a Drama Simulator. Many of you seem to have a natural talent for that. Should try it.

The last paragraph of that blog is inexcusable - it's a complete ****-take.

In any other company addressing paying customers like that would bring instant dismissal.

Unless, of course, it was sanctioned by the CEO . . .