Player Features and Ideas Discussion

it will seem that this thread is going to become rather large. Seem a lot of people are not happy or got plenty to say about how badly rushed it is. In comparison has the largest reply with other threads that were very important from the date it was initiated...
Someone is going to be come very un popular with the eve community.

Honestly, just remove fleet warp as a feature in general :)

Specifically Manny, who was quite vociferous on the matter.

Believe it or don't, I'm an optimist at heart who'd really love to believe in the basic ability of individuals to rise to the occasion when they must... I've just seen enough of the world to know that unfortunately... they don't. Not 'they can't', mind you - they don't. They're far more likely to keep on wallowing where they are, blaming everyone for their problems but their own unwillingness to rouse themselves from what they think is relative 'comfort'.

And again, if you think I'm being unfair in my assessment, ask yourself why every large organization has to pretty much write policy instructions, safety instructions, etc etc, for the lowest common denominator? Even the ones who start off from a position of filtering out the really low-end applicants? Why the assumption of individual performance is minimal, again and again?

I really wish I was wrong. I'm not.

This quote that was all that was needed in response to this idea.

This and the last few changes lead to:

- Fleet warp is now becoming a hassle and will take longer..
- My warping is slower (i hate frigate pvp)
- I now have fatigue timers

Three changes that are making travelling take longer, and limiting my actual pvp time. I play EVE because i want to PVP not travel.

That's because Petes are ******* ********. Whoever though it was a great idea to design a ship would would be both combat capable and able to dodge interdiction system is the guy to blame. He isn't necessarily an idiot but he did lack forethought in the same way supercap/titan design was lacking...

Awww...Pete's ruining your game? Wait a minute, I thought that was supposed to be Goons MO.

So, you'll need scouts that you trust enough to warp to when they say they have a good warp-in, or, you'll have to juggle a bunch of alts because you don't have scouts that you trust. Not having good scouts will be a disadvantage. Seems reasonable.

A decent scout will know a good warp-in from a bad one. A better scout will have flown with the FC enough to know the positioning that he or she prefers. A really good scout will be able to keep the target between them and the fleet so that they can call for a warp-in at range and land their fleet at 0, if that's what they're trying to do.

So, you've expanded the number of players in a 200 man fleet that need skill beyond "shoot the primary", or "rep the broadcast" from one, to several. I don't see that as an unreasonable expectation.

You have made living in a WH more tedious, but, not terribly so. Again, good scouts will be at a premium.

You've also made it (intentionally or not) even more difficult to ninja-move a capital or super. It's pretty standard to have the cyno fleet warp the ship jumping in to a safe when it lands.

All that this change will do is make Kiting fleets superior to everything.....
Just fly around with your Ishtars at 100km kiting your enemy.
Nobody will get you because the prober needs to warp to the Ishtars first, and then the fleet will follow later, by that time the Ishtars have moved another 50km!

This change will make kiting the only viable option.

RIP good brawlfights.