Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Nope. Not gonna happen. Too much at risk.

Also, Ken, I'm sorry you had to leave the TGRAD cause goons were being such a **** cause they liked Wusti more. Loved your PL application material though.

Who was so mad at getting outplayed that they lobbied this ridiculous change through? Whose ego is being catered to with this change? Whoever you are, HTFU you whiny space nerd. Those who are best at playing the game SHOULD win.

CCP, you are nerfing competent FCs by directly attacking the impact of their player skills. All this does is equal the playing field between the great FCs and the mediocre FCs. In effect, it dumbs the game down, and caters to the unskilled players getting smeared by the truly talented players. And all while masquerading as a change that will get fleet members more involved in fights.





Why slow down the game? Who was so mad at getting outplayed that they lobbied this ridiculous change through? Whose ego is being catered to with this change? Whoever you are, HTFU you whiny space nerd. Those who are best at playing the game SHOULD win.

This is not just about wormholes, bookmarks are equally important, If I (the scout) cannot get on top of the target without being de-cloaked, or said target is moving too fast from can-to-can in a relic site, we use our squad warps to land us in front of the target, or IN the cloud that would otherwise decloak us.

also, remember the people in areas away from cities where they don't have the luxury of high speed internet. they rely on their team for help in the event they hit a lag spike. just warp the guy to the safe... I have had this happen with a corp member twice

Lastly, no there is NOT always a scout as said 'scout' had to go back and re-ship because he/she is needed for dps or logi. Oh we found a Armageddon, we only have 5 people, no room for a scout we need dps, neuts, a jamgu would be nice. the scout found the target sure, but for some smaller groups there is no room for someone to sit around and watch. Leave the squad warp ability at least.

One thing I have noticed brought up on nearly every page; FC's using alts. I have been living in this Wormhole for quite some time and when we rage roll our hole for 'content'... namely more people to fight, we don't send an alt in to find the target and sit on it. We roll the hole, scan down the new, toss someone through it. Considering it is a rage roll we have 8-12 people online during our Peak times so we send 2-3 people in. Lets say we find a target, 3 Gila's are ratting in a combat site. Gila's are something to be reckoned with when fit right. Scouts come back and refit/reship bookmarking the site and where the gila's were sitting.

Assuming Standard Wormhole, not bonuses, we will grab the Devoter, 3 guardians, a second Devoter if possible, 2 guys in Jam ships to Jam them out is a bonus(we have 1 IF he is online) and all the DPS we can get. so lets assess the warp in, the DPS, the Guardians, and the Jamgu all will land at different times. some of our dps are in battlecruisers (myself in a Myrmidon). This presents a tactical problem that sure can be solved with simple math, but that math was already done by squad warp. now we get to waste unnecessary time calculating who jumps and when. So weight off the FC... no. Our FC using alts? no. Anyone using alts in that squad? again, no. You are negating the reason to Risk attacking those Gilas based on timing alone.

You guys who like to blame people using a thousand alts this is not everywhere. Wormhole space is nothing like Nullsec or known space for that matter. A group of 5-10 people can form into a Corp and have a POS and control their own little C1 wormhole without the need for territorial claim units or titans or caps... or even battleships. do we evict them? maybe if we REALLY hate them. Why not? because we love content and fights, and not evicting them means we get to roll into them later and fight again. Getting the drop on a ratting Gila or a ratting Rattlesnake is almost always done after someone rolls into a new, unscanned wormhole. This means we may only have a few minutes to form fleet, get to the wormhole that guy is in, and get the jump on it.

Not all FC's need alts. Fleet warp is used constantly without alt's and you seem to be basing your entire argument on alt's. I don't have any alt's nor intend to. and some of the folk's I play with spend more time in the climbing gym than they do on this game. Quit recking the game for the sake of making PL's life easier in terms of their preferred way of combat or PVP. It is about the Community as a whole, not one nook of EVE where a particular group thrives and would be better suited if people couldn't fleet warp on top of them.

Some posters casually dismiss the serious concerns of wormhole residents, with pithy statements like get warp-to scouts to sit on the WHs in our chains. Imagine if system gates are NOT 'public' and you need to have scouts sit on zero on them for fleet OPs. For huge alliance such as the goons and pl with hundreds of ships at their disposal in their regions, it's not a problem. But for many much smaller, corps the changes are a problem.