Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is stupid. I recently got an alt account so I could participate more in my corp's pvp, but this would destroy what we do, and there'd be litterally no reason for me to have that account.

To chime in on this, ratting in high end worm holes usually requires a good little team, with mixed ship types (so different warp speeds) going to a book marked and scanned site.
Let us assume though that they are going to use just Tech 3 cruisers and logistics, so one of the logistics is too slow and *pop* goes the first one to land ... and *pop* goes a T3 cruiser.

Risk is now far out weighing reward. Note how even while saying it he stresses how ridiculous it is.

I think they are trying to force more engagements.
Instead, I believe it will make people more risk adverse.
No longer +1 scouts and risk getting caught in a system but +2 and +3 scouts front and back.

Because only people in large alliances should be able to affect fleets. This change would make t3 boosters in deep safes unkillable if the pilot is paying any attention at all. There's an easy compromise: let squad commanders warp. It lets small fleets still be effective while helping to prevent the blobs that CCP seems to be trying to prevent with this.

Slippery Pete's die to literally any other sniper with the same range. Their whole thing is that they have no tank, and don't need it.

So instead of one person piloting 255 ships, it will be 25 piloting 250 ships. Hmmm...

Sorry, I still like the idea of 256 pilots piloting 256 ships.

This isn't going to be the huge negative impact on bombers that some people seem to believe it will be.

I have no words. This is a horrible idea.

From a practical perspective, since i am deaf in real life, I can't use team speak.

Fleet warp has helped me stay with the squad, especially in bail out situations where people are too busy to relay via text.

This change means if I am in a fleet with multiple corps, or a quickly made book mark, I will be left in the dust. Fleet warping to a celestial is generally not smart in pvp.

LOL. You really think that this is a good idea?

Go share a wormhole with another corporation in your alliance for a month, and then come back to me.

Seriously, this is brutal when running joint (i.e multiple corporation) fleets -- instead of a FC fleetwarping to bookmarks, now we will have to send someone with the bookmarks ahead to serve as a fleetwarp target on a very regular basis, or juggle bookmarks back and forth on an equally regular basis. Both of these consume valuable, if not critical, time when in a high-threat situation.

Worse yet -- this renders fleetwarps to safespots and scanned signatures impossible. Fleetwarps to scanned signatures are again a staple of joint fleet operations in W-space; further more, fleetwarping to safespots is used by fleets of all shapes and sizes to prevent stragglers from being left behind during manual warp sequences, leading to both easy pickoff kills by a hostile probing fleet and busted safespots for the defending fleet.

One thing I have noticed brought up on nearly every page; FC's using alts. I have been living in this Wormhole for quite some time and when we rage roll our hole for 'content'... namely more people to fight, we don't send an alt in to find the target and sit on it. We roll the hole, scan down the new, toss someone through it. Considering it is a rage roll we have 8-12 people online during our Peak times so we send 2-3 people in. Lets say we find a target, 3 Gila's are ratting in a combat site. Gila's are something to be reckoned with when fit right. Scouts come back and refit/reship bookmarking the site and where the gila's were sitting.

Assuming Standard Wormhole, not bonuses, we will grab the Devoter, 3 guardians, a second Devoter if possible, 2 guys in Jam ships to Jam them out is a bonus(we have 1 IF he is online) and all the DPS we can get. so lets assess the warp in, the DPS, the Guardians, and the Jamgu all will land at different times. some of our dps are in battlecruisers (myself in a Myrmidon). This presents a tactical problem that sure can be solved with simple math, but that math was already done by squad warp. now we get to waste unnecessary time calculating who jumps and when. So weight off the FC... no. Our FC using alts? no. Anyone using alts in that squad? again, no. You are negating the reason to Risk attacking those Gilas based on timing alone.

You guys who like to blame people using a thousand alts this is not everywhere. Wormhole space is nothing like Nullsec or known space for that matter. A group of 5-10 people can form into a Corp and have a POS and control their own little C1 wormhole without the need for territorial claim units or titans or caps... or even battleships. do we evict them? maybe if we REALLY hate them. Why not? because we love content and fights, and not evicting them means we get to roll into them later and fight again. Getting the drop on a ratting Gila or a ratting Rattlesnake is almost always done after someone rolls into a new, unscanned wormhole. This means we may only have a few minutes to form fleet, get to the wormhole that guy is in, and get the jump on it.

Not all FC's need alts. Fleet warp is used constantly without alt's and you seem to be basing your entire argument on alt's. I don't have any alt's nor intend to. and some of the folk's I play with spend more time in the climbing gym than they do on this game. Quit recking the game for the sake of making PL's life easier in terms of their preferred way of combat or PVP. It is about the Community as a whole, not one nook of EVE where a particular group thrives and would be better suited if people couldn't fleet warp on top of them.