Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The initial goal is to remove the posibillitiy to relocate your whole fleet with the bookmarks/ combatscanresulst of a single person in just one second.

Interceptors and cloaky scouts are the new way to add a bid more delay and complexity.

In wh space there is allmost allways a scout with the fleet, who can give you a warpin on a wh.
Ceptors are already part of most midscale and bigger fleet, because they are great tackling ships and give you purges easily.

Yes it might be a bit more complex, but when ccp removed other features, a lot of guys complained about eve getting to easy:
Here is your new "challenge". Adopt it, or die.

this is a horribad idea for reasons mentioned.

you guys need to work on opening station doors and leave fleet warps alone

RIP Miningfleet controlled by one person?!
If a neut comes in the system, what can i do with my fleet?
-I can't use a fleetwarp to the POS-location
-I can't use a fleetwarp to a deepsave

-I can use a fleetwarp to the station (Interdictors have fun)
-I can warp to my Rorqualpilot and pray, that no fleetmember bump it outsite the forcefield -.-

Or you could, you know, get one or two fleet members to do it.

Please don't. We would like this change to be reviewed by an objective team who will take all of EVE into account, and not just butter their own bread.

Miss EVE 2015 popularity contest isn't a good venue for that sort of things.

RIP EVE...

This post shows you have NO idea how wormhole space works in actual practice and that your hard push to get this in was ignorant and not thought through.

Wormhole chains would require that you have someone ahead of you the whole time, it's not a matter of warping to public gates, but bookmarked wormholes with limited life. If no one is around to bring you through or share the book marks you have to scan them. That's not seconds, but minutes, or depending on the chain and people online to help scan it out, hours.

Logistic chains will be a pain in the ass to set up without fleet warps especially when it's an alliance and not just one corp occupying a wormhole. Sure there is bookmark sharing but even that by itself is a pain in the ass which is why people have been pushing for alliance bookmarks.

We're talking an extra 10-30 minutes on average between attacking, defending, logistics and further reliance on bookmark sharing which is already a terrible system. Add to that things like D-scan immune ships, harder to roll holes and so on it seems like CCP is making quality of life terrible for wormhole residents and there are other ways to approach the problem of more individual control in fleet battles. But this solution does too much to too many without regard to them and only with regard to it's effects in null and that is wrong.

Wormholes make people rightly paranoid and they'd rather punt people down a chain than be in the open at what is more or less a permanently blind gate. That and large systems where the scout may take nearly 30 seconds to cross in the first place are why wormholers are so upset.

Actually this seems like one of the few legitimate concerns. It will increase the time between probes appearing and the aggressing fleet landing on grid by the warp time of the probing ship. The concern is that this may significantly increase the probability of the grid being empty when the aggressors arive.

Marech.

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