Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You're mistaking important for "fun" or "value add". Did you have many frigate pilots complaining that they had nothing to do? Ever had an FC decline fast tackle? Didnt think so.

It's a chore. It is also a NEEDLESS chore and unless they can fit a cloak, they can go home because they're dead before anyone else arrives.

Fabulous gameplay - just so I can warp a fleet at the same speed?


You're NOT scouting, that's the point. You're LITERALLY a beacon to not split the unit. Fun it aint.


Remember this isn't tactical warp ins to an enemy fleet where you've got into position (good luck catching a moving fleet in a cloaky) this is JUST to get the fleet to move as a unit to corp bookmarks.

Thats scouting. Providing warps on the enemy, getting snipe points, burning a safe all of it is scouting and yes it is fun. Every fleet used to have dedicated scouts that did these things.

So, this really doesn't impact squad or fleet warp that much. It just means you need a player or character at a location to warp to them. Honestly, it' just makes things a bit more complex, but doable. Still, I'm against the idea of blocking squadwarp like that. But...it could be worse.

Presumably before corp bookmarks were a thing.

Again you're missing the point. It's NOT a combat thing, it's not a "burn me a rolling safe" thing.

It's a "I can't keep a fleet in one unit to move to a corp bookmark". No, now I now need to replace that bookmark with a Red Shirt.

Got lazy of reading after 16 pages so if this suggestion ha already been mentioned, apologies.

What about having a new "item" as well to help support fleet management?

Cloaked Beacon
- Provides a warpable overview point that is shareable to Corp/Alliances/Fleets (i.e. no 10-minute delay).
- Can only be shared when within 2000m (i.e. you can only change the sharing permissions when within 2000m)
- 30-sec. timer before cloak engages
- Lasts for a certain number of days.
- Cannot be D-scanned?
- Can, however, be probed down by combat probes.
- Can only be deployed in WH (and null?) space.
- Can be deployed by cloaked ships (i.e. deployed from Cargo Hold).
- Does not reinforce (i.e. can be easily destroyed)
- Sends message to owner when destroyed/attacked.
- Can be built from BPCs (will need new BPCs in game some how).

The above is just a bare-bones idea but might help mitigate some of the pains that people have raised concerns about.

In real life moving any group of people form Point A to Point B relies on not only the person in charge giving instructions but the individuals actually doing what they are told. Human nature generally means someone will do something stupid and go off in wrong direction because they were not paying attention. Following this logically the idea of one FC being able to move an entire fleet about with a few clicks doesn't fit in with this model but some common sense ways round have been mentioned in the posts so far and here is my tuppence worth.

1) Give FC ability to broadcast a "warp to" signal but each member of fleet must actively carry out action to warp. This ensures that pilots must keep paying attention and anyone not exactly on the ball gets left out. This means focused groups will have an advantage over larger groups of semi AFK pilots and act as good training for new pilots.

2) Fleet warp reduced to Squad Warp. Effectively this means an FC can issue the command of warping to a given location and a squad leader can move their own squad accordingly. This moves leadership responsibilities down the chain of fleet command and means they have to paying attention and capable of getting their sub-unit on target to do a job. This also leads to possibility of fleets using squads of dedicated tacklers (most likely interceptors) while the rest of the fleet catches up.

3) Is there an option for Fleet bookmarks? Concept is that while in fleet information is shared between pilots but on leaving fleet you lose access.

4) Player deployed warp beacons. More use for WH's and system defenders I imagine but these can be deployed and can be be seen by all in system.

Yes, making a safe on the fly is exactly what a scout does.

Warp the fleet to a celestial, while a smart dude in your fleet directly warps to a BM.
After you land, you can warp the fleet to the player at the BM.

No need for alt, a couple of dudes have to think more quickly.
You can be catched on a celestial.

Win Win Win.

They are, however, significantly more unified.

What utter nonesens the targets will be long gone because they saw your probes. The only way you are getting a kill that way is if they are afk mining in wh-space .
There are no public places inwh-space where stuff happens.