Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Come up with some truly rewarding roles for people in fleets. As it is, you keep multiplying the number of thankless roles that are best done on an alt - because your business strategy seems to be to squeeze as much out of the existing humans as possible

You cant tackle it with a prober and be a warp in for rest of the fleet?

You'll still be able to use them, but this will slow the speed at which they usually hit their targets. We consider that a very good outcome.

If I remember correctly 99% of combat sites have a warp gate, in null sec what you can catch now with fleet warp you will be able to catch with a solo tackle as well. Who waits around in a site when local spikes?

Escalations I have no clue about, I think those have no warp gates but you would have to use combat probes, and if they don't get out of the place while there is a person in local and combats pop out even for 15 seconds, then you will catch again with or without fleet warps.

The only valid argument so far for this change being bad is the off grid booster that needs near perfect scanner to find.

Seems that this is actually reducing the specialised role of a prober rather than increasing it. I currently use a dedicated prober in a covops (you know, a probing ship) and they warp my cruiser onto targets. If the prober has to tackle then the fit will have to be enormously gimped. And why? That's the whole point of them - to probe, not to tackle.

I am really confused, trying really hard to see why this is bad for you.

You have a prober - check
You got lock on a sig - check
You warp your cov ops to the sig - check
You warp with your combat ship to your scanner - check

What am I missing?

It will take an extra 20 seconds when the timing is already extremely tight right now.

The change restriction is too high and affects too many areas of life in Eve, from Kspace, to Null, to Wspace. I would propose a smaller iteration to address the concerns of how fleet warp mechanics now work.

• Permit Squad Commanders in a fleet to fleet-warp their squad to bookmarks and probed sigs.

Essentially you move the capabilities of the overall fleet and wing commander down to the squad level. You remove the big flying balls of hurt down to decisions made by the squad commander, permitting them to decide on tactical warp ins, locations and fleet warps for their squad.

You restrict fleet warps down to a 10 man team, with a individual per 10 man team making individual decisions for that 10 man team, to support the fleet efforts.

Fleet and Wing commanders would lose this ability to warp entire armada's to bookmarks and scanned sigs, but permit smaller skirmish groups/squads to warp their small group to them.

You move the leadership role of getting tacticals and flying to the leader of the squad, reducing the blob down to at most, 10 pilots, vs the 100+ null runs into. You now create a new leadership dynamic, and permit new people to have a stepping stone to becoming a Fleet Commander. Squad Leaders gain power, and have a relevant role verses just being a booster for their fleetmates.

I'd start with baby steps first, commonly known as "A Iteration" (Thanks for that CCP Rise).

Remove the ability for fleet commanders and wing commanders from warping entire groups to bookmarks and scan probes, and reduce it down to the squad level.

Try that first. See how it actually works.