Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That's a terrible excuse Manfred. Come on.... so you expect other FC's to force other people to play fleet jockey or get another account. I rest my case.

Manny said bombers and combat probes are the issue (which I can agree with). So why not apply a change like a 50% reduction in bomb explosion velocity with a small increase in base damage, with a further slow down of the bombs to decrease a bombers effectiveness whilst a base slowing of combat probes scan time. Obviously these things need to be refined. But making bombs apply less damage per sig radius gives shield bs a chance (despite the devs thinking battleships are ok, they are not afaik). Point is nerfing fleet warps to fix another problem breaks other things intentional or not that's not cool if you don't state that is the intended consequence.

Dear Manfred, the rest of CSM, and the CCP. With all due respect.

If you wanna nerf bombers - adjust single in game stat - bomb hit points, don't spend tons of manhours inventing stuff similar to this new fleet warp mechanic. I'am aware its not only aimed at bombers, just an example.

If you wanna nerf petes - adjust tengu offensive sub optimal bonus to rails, dont nerf med rails altogether.

And so on and so forth...

Large groups such as HK / LZHX / QEX will not suffer much from this change, as we have enough pilots and resources for throwaway pilots/ships to perform a suicide warpin role. Smaller groups will.

I'am assuming CCP's dream is that in a perfect world each toon ingame would have real person behind it @ 1:1 ratio, then please explain how suicide warpin (<1 minute into) the fight will be rewarding or interesting gameplay, or sitting at spot for 10+ minutes ( 0 minutes in actual fighting ) at a safespot providing fleet warpin.

I do realize that this change, among many others, is just a small brick in a huge wall that you call a vision, but sadly players don't know the details of the 'vision'. so we can't see where this all goes and as result get upset about the changes that don't make too much sense by themselves.

So for now most see it as huge quality of life drawback.

PS: Sorry for possible typo and the spelling

Edit: typo

Well this makes multi boxing anoms less fun D:

The best thing about this thread is that it is basically the Jump Fatigue thread, only in reverse.

Immediately below your post quoted here Teh Replika gave you a pretty good example of consequences. Back to my comment why wont someone state what are the other intended consequences of this change?

So first you denigrate me for thinking that I fly ishtars, now you denigrate me for not flying an ishtar? I am confused -- which one of these scenarios makes me better at Eve: Online?

I understand that you are trying to jam the crowbar of EVE SKILL DEFICIENCY into any crack in my rhetoric that you can perceive, but I'm confused as to the point of even bringing it up.

Pretty much all game changes have consequences. What particular consequence "breaks" the game?

Regardless of your opinion of my ability to play Eve: Online, it's not exactly a mental stretch to say that bombers disproportionately affect shield tanked ships, due to the signature radius penalties associated with shield extenders and core defense field extenders (and other shield rigs.) It's just not that difficult of a concept to wrap your head around.