Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Fixed it for you :p

No, just no. This would almost destroy places like bombers bar

I don't know if making something like navigating a fleet more annoying and inconvenient is the best way to accomplish that.

I don't think it's possible to make the game fun by nerfing stuff and removing quality of life features.

I feel in the age of spaceships we would have a navigation computer that would be capable of warping to a set of coordinates or maybe that's the toaster I can't tell.

You are trying to fix a problem by imposing artificial limits on the sandbox not only is this bad game design it limits what small groups can and can't do. This is just a long line of poorly thought out game design decisions that only hurt smaller groups with little to no effect on large blobs.

If you think bombers are a sever enough issue maybe you should look at changing the way bombers work. If you think instawarp t3's are a problem maybe you should look at ways to fix the t3's (maybe interdiction nullification wan't such a good idea after all).

CCP, please fix the problems in a considerate manner not in a blanket game design change that will make everyone's life that much more miserable.

You seem to have forgotten wormholes m8.

Also explains why every pl poster here is for it.

Ok so what about the person who has multi accounts in this game.....................


did u ever think of them??? We rely on the fleet warp to get us from point A to B.

Everyone in this game HAS A ALT and enjoys the fleet warp option to help move things around. It just makes the gaming that much easier and once again U SCREW IT ALL UP all because you are thinking of one group and forgetting the rest of us.

The nerf bat swingeth and much was hurt, in a messy collateral damage way that was so very bad.

Ok, lets talk about the elephant sized goon in the room. A change which appears to be mostly aimed at nerfing bombers is really a massive nerf to large null sec fleets composed of players from multiple alliances banding together for mutual benefit, cooperation etc. Those in support of these changes are two groups from what I can see. 1 is the stereotypical low sec pvp king, the type who roles around solo pvping in a very blingy ship (with an off grid booster, cyno/jam falcon alt and back up triage) who inhabit the EN24 comments and can't make a post without saying "grr goons" and Pandemic Legion. Both groups are generally very high sp players who would benefit from not being blobbed by a thousand rifters or 250 Celestis.

Many others have identified that the law of unintended consequences is running rampant here, I have no need to add to them beyond saying why does CCP promote a change that is disproportionately hard on allowing new players to group pvp? Many groups make a fetish of praising the newbie hero tackling without a care for their survival. They are too new to have the months worth of trying to be a pro prober and warping to fleet members isnt that easy at first.

To be bluntly honest, this thread is a disappointing distraction after CCP backtracked on giving us variable timers on fozziesov, which was a massive fuxk you to us AUTZ. So get to work fixing that, before you break the game further with this poorly planned change with far reaching un fun tedium inducing consequences. Dumbing everything down to low sec FW pvp is not what I want to play. If i did, I would have a FW alt.

Disclaimer: no you can't have my stuff. No tears, my tears cure cancer and I don't want to put all the oncologist out of work.

Pushing for this change is racist against F1. Bow your head in shame!

This changes very little for me. What was the theorycrafting behind this change, what is it supposed to do? With the exception of solo players and multiboxers, it feels like a nerf to everyone else... and not even bombers in particular.

I don't think this is the right direction.
This is going to hurt W-Space