Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hello fellow capsulers,

I would like to propose one very simple but useful change to the survey scanner module, not big things already proposed like adding colors to the roids in the belt or something requiring a lot of math or server resources.

Right now, the survey scanner can gather 3 differents informations when activated :

-The different types of asteroids and their respective variants (veldspar, condensated scordite, solid pyroxeres, etc.)

-The amount of units of ore left in each asteroid (the number at the right of the name of each asteroid in the survey scanner window)

-The distance of each asteroid from the ship which activated the module at the moment the scanner finished his cycle.

What is not shown : knowing the exact type of asteroid, the survey scanner could know the volume per unit of each ore.

The info that the player have is when he move is mouse over the strip miner, he can see the individual m3/cycle time of each strip miner.

What I would like to see to change is the following :

-instead of displaying the number of units of ore in each asteroid, the number showed there could be the volume of each asteroid, just using this formula : "number of units" x "volume per unit"

By knowing the volume of each asteroid of the belt, the only easy and fast thing that the miner will be required to do to avoid wasting cycle time would be to divide the number shown in the survey window by the yield per cycle on one strip miner to see how many cycles he need to completely harvest the asteroid.

I hope I have been clear enough and will gladly answer any question regarding this proposal.
Thanks for reading

EDIT : a other thing though minor but convenient would be to make the radial menu work inside the Survey Scan Results window, in the same way the drones window use the radial menu.

I already use it for this, but this is really cumbersome for nothing, I mean, the survey scanner is ONLY about making a miner able to being more efficient at mining, so why only go the half-way and make him some maths plus using the show info on each ore, that's not clever from a very limited and specialised module.

The fact that you don't like mining for whatever reason is not the problem here, it's like if the speed meter of a car would show the rotations per minute of the wheels instead of the kph, of course i can calculate that myself, but the role of a tool like this is to help making rough estimations WITHOUT a calculator and/or a spreadsheet.

I don't think you are going to get much support here, cause 'mining mod'. So who cares right. the Ship scanner gives the exact fit and even reads said ship's Capacitor! No calculator needed. And miners can not even get a Survey Scanner that reads in a useful amount. You have to have a cheat sheet of the 16 ores, gas, and ice. Also have the dang calculator open and figure out the amounts. The cargo scanner don't need this or the Ship scanner, but they are pvp related so... go figure.

Going along with CCP's getting us to look into space more, having the survey scanner create a heat map in space where richer asteroids are richer on the heat map would be awesome. Being able to filter by class would also be nice so that I could say, only heat map Veldspar (I'm a masochist apparently).

If it did that, then the survey scanner would be a toggleable module that simply keeps the heatmap accurate once per activation.

Added a second convenient feature about the survey scanner : make the radial menu works inside the result window in the same that for the drones window. To be able to target a asteroid by clicking on it with the radial menu mouse button and select "lock target".

That's what Iain Cariaba said : "Use a calculator or a spreasheet"

But what I think is the survey serves nothing but make a miner able to stop at the right time his strip miners, and this module is only about that.

If I need with this module some notes, a calculator or even both, something is wrong. Like I said, the speedmeter of a car could give the rotation speed of the wheels, and knowing by the manual of the car the diameter of the wheel => simple stuff to do so stop complaining right ?

Yes of course what you said is what I always did with the survey scanner, and my memory is good enough to not need both notes or a calculator for the stuff I mine regularly, but still, the module need to be tweaked IMO.

The same could be said for plenty of other pre-figured values. It's not a bad thing at all to want a tool to have use beyond simple number value.

I'm tentatively supportive. It makes mining easier, and benefits hands on keyboards more than eyes on netflix, but I don't see it being a major problem. When I mined a lot, I had those conversions in my head and liked the advantage that learning the m3/unit and m3/s rate of my miners gave me.

Ed: Also, since I saw a bump, any new idea on the topic, or even a question gets the thread back to the top legitimately, without violating the forum rules. :D

I usually agree with most ideas being bad, or at least not good.
The excess venom I dislike, though sometimes the snark is dead on.