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New icons are ok, I like the attempt. That being said, the old icons worked really well for sleepers. I would like the option to fall back to the old ones for them at least.

I do like having a way to identify at a glace the class of ships, very much a step in the right direction.

Good way of looking at it.. says it all..

if you go for the top row, simply do what they did with the old icons: shrink them vertically. in my opinion we don't need to have that many different icons for industrial ships in general. maybe one for mining ships and one for hauling ships. in my opinion the icons should make the decision to run or to fight easier. i don't run from industrial ships :D



if i scale these icons down in my browser or in photoshop, they still look ok and not messed up. so i don't understand the problem here. but i guess thatswhy i'm not the designer here^^



i play the game since years and i know what i personally would expect. and this is what i create my suggestions based on. unfortunately i can't simply put the icons into the game to test them. CCP... y u no give me source code? :D
but in general i try to keep close to the old icons because i know that they worked great for me.



alright, didn't knew that... fair enough

I have not seen different between BC and BS icons. Five picsels is not enough difference. You must make BS and capital icons BIGGER than now.

CCP this time you lose. return back to the old icons.

Feedback - (Other then the bloody icons)
The new skin on the Rhea at low settings looks like its diseased. (As in not good diseased.)

Another day, another set of ignored posts by CCCP. Guys face facts they do not care, and are ignoring feedback so they can plow ahead with next months release of garbage they laughingly call a Sov update.

Welcome back to pre Incarna, when the only thing CCCP want is your money in their bank account. Opinions, ideas, comments and feedback are not welcome.

Yes, that would have been a great idea : a contest for the new icons, with some nice prizes for the fun, and most importantly a poll for the players to choose the winners.

But at the end let's not forget the main question : were the icons really the most urgent thing to spend time on ? Did they really need to be changed ? Aren't there much more important things to be done to improve EVE ?

Cynos still have the same icon as landmark or monument beacons? Really? Fantastic...

I have given it a few days, here is feedback after i calmed down.

TL:DR - rat icons and pvp icons are bad, wreck,loot, deoployable icons are bad, rest I dont care about, give us old icons back and ability to create our own icons.

Ok, so:

1) Stargates, misc icons, POS icons. Yeah those are whatever - no different to what we had before, i dont really care about those icons. Wormhole icon looks cool I suppose, stargate icon is meh, too bulky.

2) for PvE, rats are too similar. I am having trouble telling apart battleships from cruisers. A big fat cross for battleship rats is much much easier to spot at a glance then a slightly bigger triangle in a sea of triangles. Maybe if you make the triangle a lot bigger and fatter...and add a cross to it...

3) Wrecks, containers, depots, tractor units - barely identifiable, incredibly difficult to sort our in a cluttered battlefield. Old icons were also much better then the new ones.

3) for PvP, new icons are too detailed and small, its just not working. I constantly have to mouse over the icon to see what ship it is, in the middle of combat. All these triangles look the same. I dont really have the time to look closely in a fluid pvp situation, does that triangle have a tiny dot over it, or a line somewhere? And a frigate is the same thing as a destroyer for me, I dont need different triangles to ell them apart. Ditto with haulers. Basically, now I rely on overview Type column to tell me if its a frigate or whatever. Im sorry but tiny similar-looking triangles are just not intuitive, and honestly, unnecessary.

Basically, I dont think we need an icon for each different class of ship. I think a transparent bracket like we had before, of different sizes, was way more useful, less clutter. if you wanted to rejiggle these icons, all you had to do was change the size of them. You know there is nothing wrong with making a capital icon 20 times bigger then everything else, if its a transparent square, who cares.

The way I see it, less is more with icons, same as with EVE map. You dont NEED to make these icons ultra-detailed or whatever - on the contrary, less is more, there needs to be as few icons as possible, and they should be as uniform as possible.

Old system had it nailed pretty well. All PvP ships were a single type of TRANSPARENT square bracket, just different size. And the transparent field could be colored by standings or whatever. Perfect.

All rat icons were a DIFFERENT visually distinct type of icon, a cross, so you could at a glance tell if there were pvp hostiles in a site with you while you were ratting. And by looking at the crosses, i could tell at a glance which was battleship, and which was a cruiser. It was a very good system.

Wreck icons were also good and thought through. White of full, grey for opened, different colors, transparent for empty. Easy to tell at a glance which is which.

Trouble started when you guys started to introduce deployables, thats when it started to clutter the screen. Those needed change. Those were hard to tell apart from each other and to sort our a tractor amid a sea of wrecks was hard, visually. Not this was no reason to go ahead and bork a completely working system of icons otherwise. I think it shows that different people we involved with icon creation from this point on, they just dont fit.

Anyhow, I would strongly suggest the following:

Let the players define their own icons and brackets. Give us a default set, and give us an option to load our own custom icon set. I know that I would tweak the icons, go back to old rat crosses, go back to old pvp square brackets, and I would make my own icons for deployables and wrecks, i dont think you guys can make those right so they dont clutter. Sorry.