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Carnyx release - General feedback

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loquacious7
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#821 - 2015-06-03 18:18:13 UTC  |  Edited by: loquacious7
Can we turn the icons off? I only need a character name, Distance, ship name, speed, transversal and and FC command. Not really sure why you think putting big ugly symbols all over a beautiful landscape should be called progress. But it's like painting a mustache on Mona Lisa ;)
Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#822 - 2015-06-03 18:20:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Natya Mebelle
Sean Roach wrote:
Have you given any thought to pre-rendering the icons for different resolutions? I know that's more stuff to download, but I'd think even a 10fold increase in the number of sprites would be a small(ish) download, and I doubt anyone will scale things down to 10%.

Granted, the effort of checking each sprite for legibility at a given resolution, and then tweaking it, may be more than CCP wishes to commit its art department to.

Yes, creating individual variation sets for the 3 other UIs would be a nobrainer. I mean... that would infer that these Icons hold what they promise, which they don't in this case. So instead of doing four times the work for something that could be changed anyway, we are their guinea pigs for testing again... except that would not have been needed, considering the amount of previous feedback.

And it is not that hard to do. You start with the smallest UI size, being 90%, scale up, sharpen up, and apply individual tweaks, save. Sometimes you do have to create the same shape from scratch, but once you KNOW what you are drawing since the decision is already made, this is a lot easier and faster. Rinse and repeat for the two other UI scales. The majority of the work is done on the first set of icons, the other three scales require in total less time than creating the first set.
Panterata
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#823 - 2015-06-03 18:21:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Panterata
CCP Claymore it's time to write something again. It is obviously that ppl don't like it at all and want old back
Midnight Hope
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#824 - 2015-06-03 18:22:08 UTC
Thanks CCP for giving me a choice:

- Leave 90% scaling on, as I have been using for years now, and get a set of totally messed up incomprehensible and confusing icons or...
- Remove 90% scaling, loose a ton of real state in my monitor and get totally incomprehensible and confusing icons that are clear to read

I think I understand what triggered this change. In your focus group with new players they all asked "why is everything a cross" and you said "Bingo! we need new icons". But in your own hamfisted way you swung the pendulum too much to the other end. Now everything is a different icon and you messed with the ones that we have been playing and loving for YEARS! Why the Sun and asteroid belts had to change??! Why a different icon for every drone??! Why change the pod icon??! Where those not easy enough to understand?


Please bring back my 90% scaling.

Please do SOMETHING with the icon mess.

PS: If it ain't broken...
Dan Seavey Allier
Seavy Acquisitions
#825 - 2015-06-03 18:40:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Dan Seavey Allier
epicurus ataraxia wrote:
Dan Seavey Allier wrote:


All in all, a good patch.

I'm a little disappointed in the rantings of those who are reacting so negatively to the icon changes.

These were comprehensively announced weeks ago in the dev blogs.
These have been on SISI for some time now.

I hope everyone who is losing their **** here was active on the test servers up until now.....offering more constructive criticism
than the childish, self absorbed, self entitled ranting like I'm seeing in this thread.

There are no surprises here. You were more than forewarned, and your feedback is constantly solicited ALL THE TIME for EVERY CHANGE.

To wake up one day and kick and scream when you had every opportunity to help prevent or modify changes you did not prefer only undermines your current outbursts.

Now adapt, or die.


Dan




Dear Dan, excellent troll, you gain a rating of .00000000000000000000000000001 on the good troll guide.

Ps we warned about this train wreck until we were blue in the face.
Maybe you should read the feedback? And not look like an ignorant troll?



Did my message apply to those who DID contribute constructive feedback?

Quote:
I hope everyone who is losing their **** here was active on the test servers up until now.....offering more constructive criticism than the childish, self absorbed, self entitled ranting like I'm seeing in this thread.


I'm seeing a lot of posts from those who never bothered, and I'm seeing a lot of "Change Scares Me" and
"I was used to the old way" bitching. I for one like the new icons. About 1/2 of the posts are negative drivel, from toons who did not engage on the feedback forums.
Those are the ones I was addressing.

Does this apply to you? No? Then go back to sleep.

Dan

Honey Never Sleeps. - John Russell
Koba Kyogen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#826 - 2015-06-03 18:40:48 UTC
The new icons blow. Change it back, now.
The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#827 - 2015-06-03 18:42:28 UTC
loquacious7 wrote:
Can we turn the icons off? I only need a character name, Distance, ship name, speed, transversal and and FC command. Not really sure why you think putting big ugly symbols all over a beautiful landscape should be called progress. But it's like painting a mustache on Mona Lisa ;)


Because the boxes were so artistically beautiful...
Lahnius
#828 - 2015-06-03 18:45:50 UTC
Dan Seavey Allier wrote:


I'm seeing a lot of posts from those who never bothered, and I'm seeing a lot of "Change Scares Me" and
"I was used to the old way" bitching. I for one like the new icons. More than 1/2 of the posts are negative drivel.
Those are the ones I was addressing.

Does this apply to you? No? Then go back to sleep.

Dan




... you assume alot, which can only mean one thing ...
Lahnius
#829 - 2015-06-03 18:48:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Lahnius
The Slayer wrote:
loquacious7 wrote:
Can we turn the icons off? I only need a character name, Distance, ship name, speed, transversal and and FC command. Not really sure why you think putting big ugly symbols all over a beautiful landscape should be called progress. But it's like painting a mustache on Mona Lisa ;)


Because the boxes were so artistically beautiful...



has nothing to do with artistic beauty ... it has to do with usefulness and simplicity
Steijn
Quay Industries
#830 - 2015-06-03 18:48:47 UTC
Lara Divinity wrote:
Skia Aumer wrote:
Aeon Veritas wrote:
Now lets talk about the by far most discused feature of this patch, the icons....
Can you at least tell us that they will be reconsidered?

The statement has already been made: get used to them and come back in 3 days to give positive feedback and cheers.

so basically nothing will change


1 thing will, my sub. I have 3 expiring within a few days of each other from the 20th. Pointless subbing to a game that you dont get enjoyment from because of stupid changes.

PS. No you cant before someone asks.
Elise Sancta
Durance.
#831 - 2015-06-03 18:50:11 UTC
The Slayer wrote:
loquacious7 wrote:
Can we turn the icons off? I only need a character name, Distance, ship name, speed, transversal and and FC command. Not really sure why you think putting big ugly symbols all over a beautiful landscape should be called progress. But it's like painting a mustache on Mona Lisa ;)


Because the boxes were so artistically beautiful...


Yes, and these new ones are soooo good, especially on 90%. :S
Array Aggression
Caomhnoir Onoir
#832 - 2015-06-03 18:52:26 UTC
Quote:
Why should we ignore one problem in favour of the other? I'm sorry you cannot log into the game, but that does not mean we all should stop talking about other things that affect others as well.


Well, 2 things, 1, I was joking, and 2, it's easy to talk about prioritization of problems being wrong when you can actually log into the game. For those of us that can't even load it anymore because of the patch, we're left paying for a service we can't even use, at all, period. Sure, it sucks to have to learn new icons, and deal with the messy interface, but at least you get to. :)
Detritus Thermopyle
#833 - 2015-06-03 18:53:36 UTC
Patch process was nice and smooth. New overview icons are one of the best game improvements ever, imo.

"A lie can travel half-way across the universe whlie the truth is undocking."   ~ Mark Twain (paraphrased)
Monster Dude
Raging Angels
#834 - 2015-06-03 18:54:47 UTC
I've never had a single issue with overview icons so far.
And I do have a big one now.

Long story short: I'd say the one who did this change shouldn't do changes in EVE... :(
Lahnius
#835 - 2015-06-03 18:56:55 UTC
Detritus Thermopyle wrote:
Patch process was nice and smooth. New overview icons are one of the best game improvements ever, imo.



uh yyyyyeaaaaa


best game improvements ever? pvp much?
Jack Hectom
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#836 - 2015-06-03 19:04:27 UTC
I'll be honest here I don't like the icons. I'm also sure I'll get over it in a few months regardless of what happens. For now I'm too busy popping all these Special snowflakes who think it's hilarious to offline our station services.
Sun Huren
Genuine Forgeries
#837 - 2015-06-03 19:06:19 UTC
Please. The icons are bad. Really bad. Why are they obligatory? Everything looks the same. I'm going to lose a lot of ships to this; if I don't lose my mind first.
Slarti
One Man and His Drake
#838 - 2015-06-03 19:08:14 UTC
We needed new icons
Turri Spacepilot
Forging Industries
Silent Infinity
#839 - 2015-06-03 19:12:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Turri Spacepilot
Lot of crying about icons well maybe some day i could get in and see the friking icons but no.
Atm after pressing play eve wont start it just sits in prosesses and waists my cpu power...
Hajime Nakamura
Doomheim
#840 - 2015-06-03 19:13:13 UTC
I personally like the new icons, gives the game a more strategic look just like real life tactical maps. Its really not as big of a deal than as some people whine about, typical people who don't like change in any aspect of their lives, get used to it.