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I can't speak to visual problems: even at my age (mid-40s), my astigmatic eyes can make the icons out clearly at 100% scaling without glasses and without headaches.

I like the consistency of the designs. I love that NPCs use the same icon set. I like that it's now easy to tell destroyers from cruisers from battlecruisers (or, in the case of rats, to tell frigates from destroyers).

If they look like old videogame sprites, it's because they're trying to solve the same problem in the same design space (few pixels, few colors).

Fix the scaling algorithm, migrate the icons to ISIS. Done and well done, as far as I'm concerned.

I'll throw another stone to the garden dissatisfaction with new icons, introduced only chaos. They are as eloquent as Sphynx and "ergonomic" for efficient differently.

gaiz, really, please!
implement an option for the player to choose between the old and new icon set.
when ur overview is full of ships the most useful icon set is the one who indicate the ship size by icon size, not by shape
what u did was throwing in a lot of icons of the same size but different shape; you have to look at each and mentally process that shape.
some may like that, some may not, and some may want to do that change/transition at their own will/pace

oh,and white npcs at the gates: atleast fill them with full white, not gray

That business mentality is the same as the one, where manufacturers started to put milk proteins in every damn food, and then wondered why their customers with milk allergies stopped buying.

Hint! It wasn't because they didn't like the taste.......

Hint! You can't see the icons, you are not going to get used to them.

For God's sake, call it Icons for cripples, icons for those unwilling to change, icons for those who do not appreciate good things, icons that we really should love, but have such bad taste we'll give you these icons.

However you justify it, Give us the option of the old icons back so we can actually continue paying you and play!

I would like to chip in my thoughts on the overview icons as well.

I don't care for them. I didn't react right away in face I was just objecting to the change in general. But then I realized what it was that most rubbed me the wrong way; its complexity. It's not how they look at 90% UI, though that is a concern. It's how complex they are compared to the shorthand information they're supposed to convey.

I work in graphics, and less IS more. The little squares of boxes that identified other players? That was less, and it is more than the new system in place.

A lot of Eve basics can be boiled down to Small >> Medium >> Large >> XL. That is, frig, battlecruiser, Battleship, capital. Knowing that information alone can be a firm foundation for future decisions. Example, frigs orbit the battleship, never gets touched by those large guns. Information that can be gleamed from the simple box size icon from the old overview, and this is the information players are looking for in their overview. The new overview is a plethora of data that takes longer analysis before it can be understood. In a fight, that data is to much to parse.

Graphics 101; less is more.

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Early in this thread, someone posted an image featuring ships and rats as a variety of pointed cones. Smaller ships had smaller cone bases, while larger more battleship sized ships had wide bases. This is the sort of information that is useful, and it looks good, if not a little... red. It needs another pass before I'd ship it, but this is easier to understand at a glance, and would be a strict upgrade over both overview iterations.

While no one was asking for an overview overhaul, we are now. Because this new flood of data is to much to handle. And it doesn't look very nice either.

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66945/1/UIModernization_Blog_Screenshot.jpg

Dear Dan, excellent troll, you gain a rating of .00000000000000000000000000001 on the good troll guide.

Ps we warned about this train wreck until we were blue in the face.
Maybe you should read the feedback? And not look like an ignorant troll?

This, one +1. They are simple and logical compared to the new icons, at least for ships. Still, I would prefer the old ones...


This too. Unfortunately, CCP came from the "school" who pretend that the user don't know what he really wants. Options are good, but not for CCP logic and this despite external disastrous exemples like the failure of the W8 Start Screen...


This would be even better, there are some MMOs who do that. CCP would have to release old UI material when they update them, to permit to be reused by a mod.

Of course, it is hard to code, but it will permit to contentate any motivated players and so stop all complains about Neocom and others, as we will be able to correct them. [EDIT] Maybe it can be done easily in the code department for a part of the UI, by making the game load the ressources from an unique "mod" folder before SharedCache, and so the first ones would replace the second ones if already existing. CCP will need to tell us how to modify some of the UI ressources, and there you go. It won't permit to mod everything, but it would be a start.

Oh, how I miss those old Neocom icons.

Although it is true that we have the option to change the UI/Neocom colours, we can only do so by adopting one of a very small number of pre-defined themes. Unfortunately we don't get to create our own custom theme using colour sliders or anything nice like that. So if there is no theme to suit you, which is sadly the case for me, you just have to tolerate a theme you don't like. Aside from that, changing the theme colours doesn't fix the icons if, like me, you find their design unhelpful and/or unattractive.

I think it's a harsh indictment of the currrent icons (both Neocom and brackets) that so many people express a wish to go back to the old ones. It's not that the old ones were good, it's just the new ones are so very very bad.

so basically nothing will change

Everything is too dark. Sometimes it is even difficult to see the close options when you have multiple windows opened or you close the wrong window. It is all 90% black.

At least before they started ruining the UI you could choose a window colour. All the current theme designs are too similar. The dominating colour remains black.

You people do not learn from it. Only responding with a few posts when the damage has been done and you had lots of warning way before the patch was released. And this happens with every patch.

Stop revamping content that is working perfectly fine. If you do want to change, think about the large group of players that will not like it and add the new fluff content as optional. Personally I do not like a UI that I like getting stripped down bit by bit and a new one forced on me where it becomes increasingly difficult to use, if not impossible.

Still no change though in the server downtime window popping up just when I am about to land a superfast tackle and have to click that away first instead of it popping up just as text. That ridiculous stuff remains ingame yet the stuff that does not need revamps get changed.



And CCP, what is the use of releasing new content on Sisi to test when you get pages long of comments, don't read it/forward any comments straight to the trash bin, still release it untouched and act surprised when players do not like it?