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Icons: Look like they are 8 years older than the game. The gate icons not even a circle its a square with round corners. The asteriod symbol looks like a 9 year old drew it with a crayon. Its a cutting edge modern space game treat it as such please.



The intentions are great yeah the different sized boxes were boring but they looked good. Use a higher resolution symbol system then im sure people will be happier.

Jackdaw slow as hell. that is all.

Pod has more vents? for the non atmosphere im sure.

Caracal model. DUDES! you made the ugliest ship the nicest ship in like 5 mb lol good job. when can the thorax get a new model?PLZZZZZZ

a little guide to the icons would be nice too please before we undock tackle a brutix cause i thought it was a incursus

Its about time the art department discovered that other shapes besides the rectangle, could be used in icons. Industrials and freighters sharing the same rectangle looked weird, every time. Some of those rectangles seemed just one pixel different from each other.

Yet somehow "better granularity" and quick "at-a-glance awareness" can't be part of the same sentence describing the same thing, they are opposites, adding more detail and variance does not make things quicker and easier to identify, simplification does that.

So the days and days and weeks and weeks of testing we continued to do on Sisi was different somehow? You said back then in the early Sisi threads to give them a few days, and then CCP never came back as if they couldn't find the icon for the forum thread anymore.

To be completely honest here... when you have weeks and weeks of constructive feedback in the Sisi thread YOU started but then left for dead, can you really say you didn't see this coming?. And due to that outright ignoring of the "good" feedback, you WILL get massive amounts of "bad" feedback. I mean you didn't bother to read the thought out, carefully constructed and informationally backed feedback, so maybe you will pay more attention to the easier to read short qibs about how terribad your decision to push this change to TQ was. I hate having to be this honest, but reading the feedback when you ask for it is your job, not mine to catalog and document each instance so I can bring it up later in detail when you conveniently forgot it existed in the first place. Now maybe if you paid me to do it for you, that would be a different story.

This over complification (new word, opposite of simplification) of the icon set seems to go against the removing unnecessary complexity in the game, and these different groups most definitely aren't on the same page as far as goals for the game's design.

Anyone remember the last time CCP decided to fix and update something to have much more detail than needed that wasn't broken to begin with? I know I sure do..., still get the shivers when I see those screenshots. Sad part is, took CCP 3 months to realize they were bad and give us the old turret icons back.

Lastly, I will leave you with the definition of "overview":

"A general outline of a subject or situation; survey or summary".

An overview icon needs to be concise, clean, simple. KISS. As stated by numerous constructive posts all throughout the various "icon disaster" threads in months prior, you don't need to try to push all the info that is already stated in both the name and type etc etc as well as listed in other overview columns. Needs to be more simple, not more complex.

Examples of too much info:
1) Drones, only need to know its a drone, the old and simple X worked perfect. If any info is needed it can be gathered by hovering over it or looking at the listing in the overview. Heck, the only new drone icon that most people can easily separate as not a ship is the one that looks closest to the old X and furthest from the massive pile of space invaders.

2) Cargo containers... 12 variations? What for, really. You took a single icon from the old system, and split it into a billion new icons to learn and work with on a regular basis.

3) 5 variations on frigate hull icons. For what, single one off ships that is the only ship using the different icon? Frigate is a frigate, let's just leave it at that.

4) If you really feel it necessary to get more granular than the old icons, http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/1505/NoUTVmZ3.png is a perfect example of simple and progressive, also the cruiser isn't 3 pixels from a dread.

5) I'm not even going to get started on celestials or the rest of the structures or objects. They should be separated and handled on their own after you fix this. You can't just throw hundreds of newly complicated and switched around icons at your player base and say "eh, get used to it" or "its better because we say so".

Gah, wow, that was a lot of text, but we'll see if it was even worth the effort, probably wasn't.

Not sure about you, but ive never had much trouble killing noob ships, so im quite sure the owners of those outposts would have been able to as well if they really wanted

Still haven't an opportunity to see a really big fleet to tell if it feels such a clusterf...k others are telling.

But one very specific feedback I can make. Wreck icons. WHAT was wrong with the old way - empty wreck icon is, you know, empty, and vice versa ?

My age starts to show and the eyes aren't perfectly sharp anymore. Trying to fish whether that wreck icon has a small pixel above or not already is a horrible strain. And that with 100% UI scaling. Ah, ofc, there is a tooltip...I should stop the sarcasm now.
Same for cargo container icon. Just ti...iiny.

However, if CCP wishes to make some donations in the name of my optician, I think we can settle things. Not asking much, just the price of my subscriptions.

I try to find what modifications of the UI made this last months are good... we have lost nearly all real customization (the "themes" are inferior to the previous slider system, sorry CCP but it is a fact. I have hard time to deal with your dark UI), we get discutable icons in a neocom who can't be opaque anymore, etc.

And now, we have a overview who fell cluttered, because there are too much different icons. Well, why do something simple when you can do it very complex...

CCP should fire all the UI team. I mean, seriously. The UI is what all players encounter at all time, you just can't fix what wasn't broken as you do usually or you will demotivate some new players to stay. The previous "operating system" UI was better, and the previous icons was simpler.

In fact, the previous UI was FUNCTIONAL and that was great. It is not the case since few recent updates as you try to make it more flashy.

so ccp why dont you create an icon for each ship? come on. simply to clarify. yes you can. ...wait not...


overview is a simple detail but such important.

This is ******* ridiculous. There is a whole thread of feedback full of specifics from the test server which you ignored and now you want me to do it again??

I took the time to do it before, so no, I'm not going to do it again - its your problem if you can't read or understand it.

I also suspect the tears loving posts " are coming from different alts of the same people".

love the new overview options