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Carnyx release - General feedback

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Natascha Kerenski
Immortal Legion
#301 - 2015-06-02 19:13:14 UTC
I am around since 2006 and i never heard somebody say:
damn this icons are hard to understand and messy and confusing AttentionQuestionAttention

“Fighting for peace is like having sex for virginity."
Cervix Thumper
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#302 - 2015-06-02 19:13:45 UTC
Icons = ATARI
Havenard
Havenard Corporation
#303 - 2015-06-02 19:17:07 UTC
FunGu Arsten wrote:
Didn't we warn you befoere the release that the new icons are terrible? they clutter the overview and make it worse to actualy identify something...


The new icons follow a pattern and make it much easier to identify the class of a ship, they are not bad at all, you will get used to them shortly. The only old icon I liked more was the Pod one.
Dr Wackjob
Masters Of The Yunnaverse
#304 - 2015-06-02 19:18:18 UTC
Icons = rubbish, literally hurts my eyes....

Carcal = WTF? is there a model issue here?

everything is just blurred, too much going on...

bad graphical patch

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DeathBySexy2
State Of The Art Ent.
#305 - 2015-06-02 19:18:44 UTC
Please for the love of god CCP give us an option to revert to the old overview icons. The new ones are just plain AWFUL... The intentions are good I guess. But honestly not really needed at all. There is a TYPE column for distinguishing Ship types that worked fine when needed.

There aren't that many different ships and if your not familiar with what there names are or what they can do after a couple months you probably shouldn't be pvping in the first place. Not to mention the NPC icon Change sucks also. now its like battlecruisers look bigger than battleships and much to similar to player ships it's just terrible.


Please just an option to revert to the old icons. That's all we ask.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#306 - 2015-06-02 19:24:00 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Well one hour gameplay, and I have had to stop. The eyestrain with these new icons has actually given me a raging pain behind the eyes. Shocked

This is going to be a serious problem.

This is no longer a matter of like or dislike, or small ships being hard to see, it is a physical limitation preventing me from playing.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
DjCiNo
BALTIC AREA
#307 - 2015-06-02 19:25:38 UTC
SRSLY ? why gallente race must be in over in this strange list ? we heave minmatar amarr and now finally caldari and tell me why gallente must be last i dont understand you ccp : /
FunGu Arsten
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#308 - 2015-06-02 19:26:32 UTC
Havenard wrote:
FunGu Arsten wrote:
Didn't we warn you befoere the release that the new icons are terrible? they clutter the overview and make it worse to actualy identify something...


The new icons follow a pattern and make it much easier to identify the class of a ship, they are not bad at all, you will get used to them shortly. The only old icon I liked more was the Pod one.


try doing pvp - hope no npc are on grid(they look so simular), make sure your drone icons are off ( but you need them), you gain no extra info off the icons because you need the shiptype, not the size to determine what you're up agains....

pretty **** is still ****.
but its not like ccp gained this info off the testservers right...
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=422538


Rogan Guild
Rylan Alliance
Rock'N'Holers
#309 - 2015-06-02 19:27:54 UTC
The new overview icons look cartoonish and not at all in theme with Eve when playing with graphics optimized for memory or performance. Why are they blurry? Why did we lose the old clean lines? Please bring back the old icons.
Kreethos
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#310 - 2015-06-02 19:28:24 UTC
Alt-tab in space BLAMM client hangs--have to end task.

(alt-tab in station, no problem)
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#311 - 2015-06-02 19:29:33 UTC
If there is a culture issue at CCP, perhaps that needs to be addressed? There may be a thought that: 'If the work is finished enough to put on SiSi, then it CAN'T be rolled back, or someone will lose their job for allowing it to go this far'. But that would defeat one main purpose of SiSi, wouldn't it, in having an internal culture issue cancel out player feedback?

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#312 - 2015-06-02 19:29:41 UTC
CCP Claymore + minions, good job on the icons, much much better than the first itteration .
pity about the 90% scaling please do look into this (I know you have stated you are but still one more voice and all that).

The ship icons in the hangars are looking a bit ropey , that aside good patch , cheers for the work.

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Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
#313 - 2015-06-02 19:30:00 UTC
Update smooth. Launcher flawless. Icons beautiful and functional. Much love to CCP. I win at EVE.

"No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Trajan Unknown
State War Academy
Caldari State
#314 - 2015-06-02 19:30:32 UTC
Where were the vocal masses when CCP released their dev blog with the icon changes?

I said it three times and I will say it again, the new icons make way more sense than all the old ones.

Space Invaders got it right 20years ago, the military is using it and EvE should use it too it was about time to get some meaningful icons. Next on my list would be better tab structure so I have all the needed "data" available within a blink of an eye. It´s not horrible by any means but it could be better.

The thing with the scaling seems to be only real problem here but on 100% they are pretty good. Some slight changes here and there would be nice too but the general route is good. The old icons made no sense and were a pure mess with many ships on grid let alone all the drones.
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#315 - 2015-06-02 19:30:49 UTC
Kreethos wrote:
Alt-tab in space BLAMM client hangs--have to end task.

(alt-tab in station, no problem)




I'm on a Windows 7 computer, x64, Nvidia Geforce, and alt-tabbing in space without an issue. What are you running?
Koba Kyogen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#316 - 2015-06-02 19:31:41 UTC
The new icons need to go.

Give us the option to disable them if you refuse to take them out.

Koba
Joia Crenca
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#317 - 2015-06-02 19:33:09 UTC
Trajan Unknown wrote:
Where were the vocal masses when CCP released their dev blog with the icon changes?





They were the participants on SiSi, the test server, and the thread concerning this issue was quite long. CCP ignored the testers. I guess SiSi testing doesn't matter if CCP had their mind made up before calling for testers.
E6o5
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#318 - 2015-06-02 19:33:48 UTC
new overview icons are, **** looks like icon houses flying around in space. shuttle got a larger icon than a rookie ship ...
i'd like the old icons back, i.e make the new stuff optional
Koba Kyogen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#319 - 2015-06-02 19:34:29 UTC
Trajan Unknown wrote:
..... 20years ago, the military is using it and EvE should use it too it was about time to get some meaningful icons. Next on my list would be...



The military icons make sense. These do not.

Here are the ones the Navy uses:

https://awacstacsim.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/20130130-091207.jpg


GET RID OF THE NEW ICONS !!! Seven years of visual cues and muscle memory down the drain.

Koba
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#320 - 2015-06-02 19:34:30 UTC
Joia Crenca wrote:
If there is a culture issue at CCP, perhaps that needs to be addressed? There may be a thought that: 'If the work is finished enough to put on SiSi, then it CAN'T be rolled back, or someone will lose their job for allowing it to go this far'. But that would defeat one main purpose of SiSi, wouldn't it, in having an internal culture issue cancel out player feedback?


This is the second iteration of the icons, the first was put on sisi pushed on us and tested
then rolled back due to player feed back and redone.

You can take your foot out of your mouth now.

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