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Carnyx release - General feedback

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Gebe
Dark Saints
#241 - 2015-06-02 17:56:29 UTC
Dradis Aulmais wrote:
Niraia wrote:
I don't know what all these new icons mean.

I don't see why I should have to learn them after using the old ones with no problems for 10 years. Roll


So CCP should just stop changing ? Let's roll back everything to year one.


Damn right that ancient niche UI looked 100x better.
Treyah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#242 - 2015-06-02 17:57:18 UTC
Launcher still broken, can't download the patch...AGAIN Evil
chmeee kzin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#243 - 2015-06-02 17:58:17 UTC  |  Edited by: chmeee kzin
Hengle Teron wrote:
welcome to the overview: hieroglyph style

e: just to be clear, they're ******* terrible



A solution to for the new and "improved" overview icons


Bad Link lol

Overview Translator BPC's coming soon to the Eve Market place. Shocked

Of course you will have to train UI for Morons lvl4, did I mention the new skill requirement.

Laughing at yourself is fun, Laughing at others is a pastime.
mellifera
Island Assault Force
#244 - 2015-06-02 17:59:59 UTC
Who signed off the overview icons....???

The Icons are absolutely woeful......................

Game developers seems determined to destroy EVE's own identity by frigging around with icons to the point it no longer feels or looks like eve...

Classic 'new management' operating mode, change things that work for the sake of it so they can take credit......

Pointless and pityful work....
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#245 - 2015-06-02 18:02:22 UTC
Soooo. Regarding the icons, it boils down to almost everyone loathing and despising them, and a couple of trolls claiming that they offer the path to enlightenment and infinite clarity..... Wonder if you will possibly listen this time.Shocked

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
CCP Claymore
C C P
C C P Alliance
#246 - 2015-06-02 18:05:36 UTC
Panterata wrote:
Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?

Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse!


That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones.

We are reading the feedback you are providing.

All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again.

We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling.

We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns.

Thank you for all your feedback so far.






Quality Assurance Analyst Team Psycho Sisters
DemetRYS
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#247 - 2015-06-02 18:05:39 UTC
CCP - Do you guys test anything before patching? Are you sure you do? Like, REALLY sure? Because it doesn't look like you do.

Not sure what's worse: a dev department that doesn't test, or a dev department does test and produces patch this buggy anyway.
Steijn
Quay Industries
#248 - 2015-06-02 18:08:10 UTC
CCP Claymore wrote:
Panterata wrote:
Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?

Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse!


That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones.

We are reading the feedback you are providing.

All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again.

We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling.

We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns.

Thank you for all your feedback so far.








i changed mine to 100% after you replied to my previous post. They still look ****!!
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#249 - 2015-06-02 18:08:56 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
CCP Claymore wrote:
Panterata wrote:
Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?

Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse!


That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones.

We are reading the feedback you are providing.

All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again.

We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling.

We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns.

Thank you for all your feedback so far.




Please provide your playerbase, with eyes that do not operate with the usual physics regarding optics in the real world.
As that seems to be the only alternative, if you continue to persist in designing icons that do not take into account real world issues of legibility.

Walk down to your local optician, and ask his opinion, you really have a serious problem here, and need to face up to it.

There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Slava Gagarin
Space Traffic Control
The Flying Elk
#250 - 2015-06-02 18:10:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Slava Gagarin
1. new overview icons are very bad !

2. why do you changed rats + ( awfull ) idea realy , pluses is better and more simple !

3. please keep it simple !



good luck
DllOverRun
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#251 - 2015-06-02 18:11:42 UTC  |  Edited by: DllOverRun
The overview icons are just total rubbish its a strain to see what's what now :( Grrrrrrrrrrr not a happy hector :( there was nothing wrong how they were before!
Panterata
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#252 - 2015-06-02 18:11:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Panterata
CCP Claymore wrote:
Panterata wrote:
Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?

Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse!


That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones.

We are reading the feedback you are providing.

All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again.

We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling.

We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns.

Thank you for all your feedback so far.





Hi CCP Claymore. The ppl don't want to get used to them. They want to have an OPTION to use old one or new! Personally for myself and my corp mate and old players we want to use the old one.
S810 Jr
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#253 - 2015-06-02 18:12:30 UTC
All I have to say about the new icons is:

To the Jita statue?
Cancel Align NOW
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#254 - 2015-06-02 18:16:38 UTC
Thank you for your buff to large scale gang warfare. It would appear the easiest way to deal with the new icons is to ensure you have 3 times as many on grid as your opposition.

Nice stealth balance to help current sov holders defend their territory against small gangs testing out the new entosis links.
Kaldi Tsukaya
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
Citizen's Star Republic
#255 - 2015-06-02 18:17:32 UTC
CCP Claymore wrote:
Panterata wrote:
Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?

Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse!


That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones.

We are reading the feedback you are providing.

All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again.

We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling.

We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns.

Thank you for all your feedback so far.


Sh*t deflectors on maximum, captain!Straight

Hang in there, pickup a bottle or two for your crew, and you'll get through this.
Most of the icons seem logical. Tough art project when you are given <40 pixels to work with...
Komercijala
Aura Solutions
#256 - 2015-06-02 18:17:56 UTC
hello ccp i need to say GET BACK OLD ICONS this ones are terrible PLEASE
Carrion Crow
Head Like a Hole.
#257 - 2015-06-02 18:18:16 UTC
Caracal... Cerberus...

Oh my.

They are incredible.

Still pondering icons...
Vic Jefferson
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#258 - 2015-06-02 18:19:24 UTC
CCP Claymore wrote:
Panterata wrote:
Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?

Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse!


That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones.

We are reading the feedback you are providing.

All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again.

We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling.

We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns.

Thank you for all your feedback so far.









Honestly though the feedback on the test server feedback forum is pretty much a microcosm of what is happening here, with at least a 3:1 bad:good ratio. With the new map, players were happy with the option to turn it off - I was extremely happy I could still use the old map. It will take you a long time to iterate through this sufficiently to please a majority of people, so in the mean time it would be hugely beneficial for both designers (using metrics of usage), and players to have the option to go back to the old icons, so they can play the game the way they like to in the mean time.

Options. To not have them and have something like this forced just makes lots of friction happen.





Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X.....XI.....XII?
Lord Makk
Trust Doesn't Rust
Goonswarm Federation
#259 - 2015-06-02 18:20:17 UTC
CCP Claymore wrote:
Panterata wrote:
Hey Lebowski, who is responsible for the icons?

Tell him to write something here on the players and not hide as a mouse!


That would be me and my team, Team Game of Drones.

We are reading the feedback you are providing.

All I can say at the moment is please take some time to get used to the new icons if this is the first time you are seeing them. It has been a while since they last changed, if ever, and it will take a while to learn them again.

We are aware that the new icons do not look great with 90% UI Scaling. This is an issue we are looking at but is a bigger project due to the nature of UI Scaling.

We are monitoring your feedback and will try and respond to your issues and concerns.

Thank you for all your feedback so far.


You can respond by reverting the icon garbage, have you looked at it? Are you a Monopoly fan?
Shinah Myst
Celestial Dragon
#260 - 2015-06-02 18:22:29 UTC
Okay, you got me there CCP. How much should I pay for you to bring back the old icons? No seriously, just tell me the number. Because I am not going to get used to the mess. I am not going to lose ships shooting MTU or a station service instead of the enemy just because you think I should give a try to something nobody asked you for. Well, if you give me free ships, then I might reconsider ofc. You could've fixed the damned twitch.tv integration that you introduced in the half-baked state (resets resolution to 1024x768, etc) months ago and never touched after that.