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Carnyx release - General feedback

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Faruzen en Divalone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2015-06-02 14:28:04 UTC
No bugs so far, icons look great and are easy to understand. Nothing ground breaking for me in this release, but nothing bad either. I look forward to learning icons more, as they offer bonus information in a simple way. I know at once, if I can engage or disengage when someone warps on grid. Good job with them. Haters gonna hate though Roll

P.S.: I look forward to the new ship explosions, please implement them ASAP, they looked EPIC at your teasers at Fanfest and have the potential to show the proportions of ship and their energy capacity, which is your concern after all Blink
Ben Musana
Doomheim
#102 - 2015-06-02 14:29:22 UTC
Update works but the icons from the Overview - omg - looks like old atari times and are more confusing then helping me ...
Silen Talker
Ts Tax Corp
#103 - 2015-06-02 14:33:19 UTC
Dane Tesla wrote:
Steijn wrote:
first impression, new overview icons are *****!!!!!!! absolutely awful.


I think they are just fine, especially the drone icons, they look like miniature 'space invaders', lolz Smile


Yes Big smile

Love the categorisation grouping style of ship icons, sure beats "big square ... little square".
Professor Frederick Johansen
Edge Dancers
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#104 - 2015-06-02 14:33:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Professor Frederick Johansen
First and foremost, i dont really care about the new icons, they are functional.

but why did you feel the overview icons needed changing?
were they really that bad that they desperately needed to be changed ?

or did i miss the massive forum argument about how the icons are **** and need to be fixed... because i dont remember anybody complaining about them..

Seriously, there are so many actual gameplay issues that could use attention, but you waste time and resources fixing things that weren't broken in the first place...

Example:
how come if i have the camera set to tracking mode, when i come out of the solar system map after scanning, the camera flies all over the place like it has a serious drinking problem?

this has been happening for months, yet you don't fix it.


This is incarna all over again.. ignoring the problems in the game, and trying to polish it with crap that nobody asked for in the first place.

you can't polish a turd and call it a diamond, it is just a polished turd.
Solumon Caar
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#105 - 2015-06-02 14:35:28 UTC
"Download Updates" stuck at 100% 2.05G for 15-20 minutes now.
Tomjhak
Konstrukteure der Zukunft
#106 - 2015-06-02 14:39:01 UTC
An addition to the new icons.

We are playing a strategy game here right? And EVE player see theimselfs as a kind of pcgamingmasterrace or something. So CCP should treat the players accordingly.
The new icons are way to playful and funny while they should be smart, efficient and minimalistic !
Compare the icons with icons from civil protection or military.

Maybe more like this
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/UCB_Geometric_Shapes.png

The icons have to be more lean than now. Now its just like fisher price toy phones or apple producty. Casual and playful.

Faruzen en Divalone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2015-06-02 14:41:38 UTC
Gallente shuttle camera centering is messed up, or maybe its the whole model, its shifted to the side and camera center is at the end of right wing of the shuttle, not in the middle of the ship itself. Other ships I looked at so far dont have this problem.
Raphendyr Nardieu
Avanto
Hole Control
#108 - 2015-06-02 14:43:33 UTC
Professor Frederick Johansen wrote:
First and foremost, i dont really care about the new icons, they are functional.

but why did you feel the overview icons needed changing?
were they really that bad that they desperately needed to be changed ?

or did i miss the massive forum argument about how the icons are **** and need to be fixed... because i dont remember anybody complaining about them..

Seriously, there are so many actual gameplay issues that could use attention, but you waste time and resources fixing things that weren't broken in the first place...

Example:
how come if i have the camera set to tracking mode, when i come out of the solar system map after scanning, the camera flies all over the place like it has a serious drinking problem?

this has been happening for months, yet you don't fix it.


This is incarna all over again.. ignoring the problems in the game, and trying to polish it with crap that nobody asked for in the first place.

you can't polish a turd and call it a diamond, it is just a polished turd.



With this tight release schedule they are not working only 5 weeks for one release. These icons have been in progress longer.

This means that there is lot of CCP staff fixing other areas of the game, while UI team tries to update this game to this year.

Also, when there is a lot of developers. Not all of them can fix all the problems. There is engine guys fixing engine problems. So, unless there is updates from that team that is supposed to fix your problem, don't complain that other teams added features!
Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2015-06-02 14:47:15 UTC
I spent a few hours over the weekend PvPing on SISI and found the new icons useful for telling different ship types apart when looking at the battlefield. Much better than differently sized squares. This will help tremendously with small gang operations, IMO.

Download and install of the patch went smoothly. Only 20-something MB with download-on-demand enabled. Haven't had a chance to really test functionality, though.
Nemesis DCC
Patriarch Of Destruction
Solyaris Chtonium
#110 - 2015-06-02 14:48:58 UTC
CCP, what are you doing? Oh god! This is terrible! SMHWhat?
Faruzen en Divalone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2015-06-02 14:49:27 UTC
Tomjhak wrote:
An addition to the new icons.

We are playing a strategy game here right? And EVE player see theimselfs as a kind of pcgamingmasterrace or something. So CCP should treat the players accordingly.
The new icons are way to playful and funny while they should be smart, efficient and minimalistic !
Compare the icons with icons from civil protection or military.

Maybe more like this
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/UCB_Geometric_Shapes.png

The icons have to be more lean than now. Now its just like fisher price toy phones or apple producty. Casual and playful.



I believe its still casual sci-fi game, not a hardcore military strategy simulator and I would like to keep it playful and casual. I have my own work in real life, I dont want another, I want to have fun in my free time. Not everyone is keen on hyperreallistic efficiency and minimalism.
Hassan Al-Fassir
Project N 3.0
#112 - 2015-06-02 14:49:38 UTC
Still no word on Alliance Logo thingie?
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#113 - 2015-06-02 14:50:38 UTC
New Alliance Logos ? X

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Sexual White Chocolate
N.A.G.A Too
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#114 - 2015-06-02 14:52:17 UTC
Reinstalled launcher, still cannot get game to load Have not been able to play since before downtime. Thanks for making the game unplayable for me CCP, you going to reimburse me for the lost time?
Sgt Ocker
What Corp is it
#115 - 2015-06-02 14:52:18 UTC
Just wondering why in the new 5MN lineup, what used to be the best meta MWD with lowest cap usage is now the worst.
Fitting aside (not important) I used it because it was kindest on cap, now it has lowest fitting requirements but is hardest on cap.

Why make something that was used for its cap friendliness into the worst cap usage module of the set?
1 PG is useless to me - Being cap stable isn't.


Not even bothering to undock and look at the worst part, the new icons sucked on SISI no reason they will be any different on TQ. Vision impaired players may be a minority but we still fking pay to play.


I think all Devs have been sitting too close to Fozzie - His brand of logic, which is not good, is rubbing off.

My opinions are mine.

  If you don't like them or disagree with me that's OK.- - - - - - Just don't bother Hating - I don't care

It really is getting harder and harder to justify $23 a month for each sub.
LordofWars
Eternal Clade
#116 - 2015-06-02 14:54:26 UTC
Love the new icons as soon as 90% UI issue is fixed.

Not only do they help in quick visual intel.
Eve videos will be way more watchable/understandable.
wick50
Greywlf
#117 - 2015-06-02 14:54:27 UTC
Why in the hell did you fix something that wasn't broken ! ! The old icons worked fine. Were easier to tell who was what size and which had loot . STUPID FIX ! !
Snoop Dong
Oruze Cruise
White Stag Exit Bag
#118 - 2015-06-02 14:55:17 UTC
New icons are terrible, absolutely no need for the level of detail they go into. Makes the game look awful with all the space invader drones flying around.

Please give us an option to use the old icons, like you did with the map.
Don Pera Saissore
#119 - 2015-06-02 14:56:10 UTC
John WarpingSlow
#120 - 2015-06-02 14:57:47 UTC  |  Edited by: John WarpingSlow
Solumon Caar wrote:
"Download Updates" stuck at 100% 2.05G for 15-20 minutes now.


Same thing happened to me.

What I did that worked:
- Clicked "X" to close the launcher. (the 'waiting' cursor came up for a while.)
- OS eventually gave me the "Application is not responding" dialog. I chose to close the application. (Launcher went away.)
- Re-started the launcher
- Watched it download the final 32 megabytes of the cached resources

Everything was fine at that point.

Seems like the launcher can't do anything without tripping over its shoelaces at least once.