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The end of Ninja Nullsec Plexing and other stuff

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Hellois Dawn
The Outlet
#1 - 2015-05-28 15:03:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Hellois Dawn
I have a few questions for the Denizens for EVE that live in Nullsec


I have spent a lot of time living in solo in Nullsec where i run rated DED sites. Once you get a few jumps into nullsec its mostly empty apart from the occasional Oasis of players. This has meant that in the main you can run a site if you find it and when other players or roams turn up in system they normally move straight through, with perhaps only 1 in 10 trying to scan you down.


The introduction of the Entosis link seem so have changed everything. Where i am alliances are dumping systems everywhere and other alliances are consolidating into smaller pipes where they can find them. The Northern Coallition seem to be one as they are disappearing all over the area i roam.

A number of systems that i used to use are now full of people constantly.

Questions

1. Alliances will have much smaller empires that are populated most of the time

2. Do you think that smaller empires will allow more people to claim nullsec or do you think that it will just give established alliances someone to crush on that day.

3. Do you think that Smaller empires will allow more people do become renters as if they dont they will be crushed and there are plenty more to take there place.

4. With greater populations in systems do you think that the Days of Ninja nullsecing are at an end or will be severely reduced.



let me know what you think and thanks for your answers
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#2 - 2015-05-28 15:09:40 UTC
I do not live in null, but it seems to me that those changes bring more life into empty part of eve universe. It is good, isn't it? I mean if you are not solo in there.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-05-28 15:23:13 UTC
I think the large alliances consolidating will mean more smaller entities in nullsec, but it may be too early to call that a reality. We'll have to see how the changes actually shake out on Tranquility. In the main, though, I think you're going to find the nullsec population more dense in areas that can support it. This may reduce your opportunities to ninja in, get some loot, and slip out unnoticed.

One solution might be to pick an area where the majority of the players aren't in your timezone, thereby reducing both your active competition and people actively trying to kill you.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Christopher Mabata
Northern Accounts and Systems
#4 - 2015-05-28 16:27:48 UTC
None of us really Know for a fact how this will play out.

Maybe all of that will come true, maybe none of it will, just have to wait and see

That said no i beleive ninja ratting and such will remain as fleets move about to other pockets to find fights and a few players stick around to grind ISK or mine. If your really concerned with this then maybe you should consider reaching out and renting yourself or perhaps applying to join an alliance or get on good terms with them.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2015-05-28 18:04:14 UTC
Quote:
The end of Ninja Nullsec Plexing and other stuff

Hellois Dawn wrote:
A number of systems that i used to use are now full of people constantly.


Confirming the end of ninja plexing in all of Nullsec because of the few systems OP liked now have people in them.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-05-28 18:08:09 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Quote:
The end of Ninja Nullsec Plexing and other stuff

Hellois Dawn wrote:
A number of systems that i used to use are now full of people constantly.


Confirming the end of ninja plexing in all of Nullsec because of the few systems OP liked now have people in them.

I haven't seen you in a while man - you been gone?

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Paranoid Loyd
#7 - 2015-05-28 18:08:57 UTC
If there is no one around, then it's not really ninja, so in essence, it would be the beginning not the end.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Hellois Dawn
The Outlet
#8 - 2015-05-28 18:45:08 UTC
Thanks for the answers and it did not take long before the trolls arrived.


The essence of the thread was that Nullsec alliances in the regions i am in are actively changing there empire space not that my tears are legion.

Nice work on trying to subvert the thread though Smile
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
#9 - 2015-05-28 19:07:13 UTC
The game is down to 2008 numbers and still dropping so theoretically it's going to get easier.
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-05-28 19:31:58 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
The game is down to 2008 numbers and still dropping so theoretically it's going to get easier.


while (!Eve.isDying == true){
println "Eve is dying"
}

If you say it enough times, it must be true.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#11 - 2015-05-28 19:32:26 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
If there is no one around, then it's not really ninja, so in essence, it would be the beginning not the end.


Season 1 of Archer will clearly define to anyone what is or isnt totally ninja.

Elenahina wrote:
I haven't seen you in a while man - you been gone?


Im always here in one way or another. Sometimes it is beneficial to the hunting grounds to give the prey a break now and then, because the tears are always more glorious when they think they're finally safe.

Hellois Dawn wrote:
Thanks for the answers and it did not take long before the trolls arrived.


When we see the Troll Signal, we usually suit up pretty quickly. The only problem is that the new guys sometimes tend to go where the signal is showing, instead of meeting at the source. After a couple times of trying to get into the clouds or crawling up the sides of skyscrapers, they usually learn. But hey, thanks for the kudos on our punctuality. Its always nice to hear positive feedback.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#12 - 2015-05-28 20:19:11 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:


Hellois Dawn wrote:
Thanks for the answers and it did not take long before the trolls arrived.


When we see the Troll Signal, we usually suit up pretty quickly. The only problem is that the new guys sometimes tend to go where the signal is showing, instead of meeting at the source. After a couple times of trying to get into the clouds or crawling up the sides of skyscrapers, they usually learn. But hey, thanks for the kudos on our punctuality. Its always nice to hear positive feedback.

*stumbles through door*
Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-05-28 21:03:54 UTC
Hellois Dawn wrote:
let me know what you think and thanks for your answers


Here's what I think is CCP's intention with the new SOV mechanics:

- Currently, the massive HP grind involved in taking SOV from somebody is an effective passive defense. New SOV can only be retained and defended by being active in a system, however. This will cause even large coalitions to shrink to what their playerbase can operative in.

- The newly available empty SOV null systems will provide a location for smaller entities to expand in to. Personally, I imagine groups occupying individual constellations, with wars against other constellation level entities. Regional or multi-regional entities will have the firepower to evict constellation level entities, but not the activity to then occupy those areas, allowing the same or different groups the opportunity to move back in. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns into something like what happens in wormholes - major wars can result in eviction, and carebears who don't provide content can be evicted, but smaller groups will be farmed for content by nearby larger groups but otherwise allowed to remain if they're deemed "worthy."

- Some systems and constellations will remain fallow and unoccupied because nobody wants them. Those can be discovered via the map, and they will likely be locations available for relatively safe ninja-PvE, barring the random roaming fleet moving through.

- Other systems will sporadically be occupied by groups that gain then quickly lose SOV, for various reasons. PvE will be hit-or-miss there.

- And finally, some of the empty systems that larger coalitions are pulling back from will become very busy as new groups move in and start utilizing their new sovereignty and will no longer be safe for a foreign PvE'er.

Of course, EVE is all about emergent behavior (see wormholes) so something completely different might happen. :shrug: Wait and see!