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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#61 - 2015-05-16 07:44:50 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Eve Solecist wrote:

Fascinating how the western world looks like today.


I blame the public school system, personally.

This is also something.

Of course you do. It's part of the problem! People blame
literally everything else before they blame what is actually at fault.

Themselves.

Anyhow, that's not the topic.
Not that there is much of one.

OP is the typical, amarrian carebear.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#62 - 2015-05-16 07:50:11 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:

Of course you do. It's part of the problem! People blame
literally everything else before they blame what is actually at fault.

Themselves.


I'd have to say that, given the role they play in formative development, at such an early age, and permeated throughout a person's lifespan for such a long time, they are at fault. At least in part anyway, for a variety of the ills of the current generation(s).

And yes, OP is typical carebear, with typical carebear whine. Until highsec's NPC stations become valid targets for attacks, or the ability to manufacture is removed entirely from said stations, there really isn't much to complain about, as there aren't enough reasons to own one in highsec these days.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#63 - 2015-05-16 08:18:12 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Eve Solecist wrote:

Of course you do. It's part of the problem! People blame
literally everything else before they blame what is actually at fault.

Themselves.


I'd have to say that, given the role they play in formative development, at such an early age, and permeated throughout a person's lifespan for such a long time, they are at fault. At least in part anyway, for a variety of the ills of the current generation(s).

And yes, OP is typical carebear, with typical carebear whine. Until highsec's NPC stations become valid targets for attacks, or the ability to manufacture is removed entirely from said stations, there really isn't much to complain about, as there aren't enough reasons to own one in highsec these days.

No they aren't. Who let them become that way?
The people.

Who let politicians do what they want?
The people.

Who keeps being a slave to consumerism?
The people.

Who just let's the assholes, in our case carebears, run rampant?
The people.

Until it's realised that the fault is one's own ...
... people will keep talking about everything they perceive as wrong ...
... without realising the actual source.

Ignorance is Strength.



OP fits into the example, like so many other carebears.

They whine.
People speak up.
Discussion is the wrong approach,
because trying educating the ignorant is futile.

The only valid solution is the one solution that is out of their reach.
"Talking" is the only thing they can, so killing them is the best way to progress.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#64 - 2015-05-16 08:21:58 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:

No they aren't. Who let them become that way?
The people.


That isn't entirely true. It's actually a rather interesting historical discussion, but public schools were framed as they are due largely to the pseudo dictatorial attitude of Franklin Roosevelt, almost entirely at the behest of corporate interests(unknown to the public at large), as a way to train the succeeding generation as brainless factory workers.

Now, if you are pointing to his being elected as the fault of the people, I will not disagree. But then I don't believe in "one pulse, one vote" either.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Solecist Project
#65 - 2015-05-16 08:36:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Eve Solecist wrote:

No they aren't. Who let them become that way?
The people.


That isn't entirely true. It's actually a rather interesting historical discussion, but public schools were framed as they are due largely to the pseudo dictatorial attitude of Franklin Roosevelt, almost entirely at the behest of corporate interests(unknown to the public at large), as a way to train the succeeding generation as brainless factory workers.

Now, if you are pointing to his being elected as the fault of the people, I will not disagree. But then I don't believe in "one pulse, one vote" either.
Edit:

In hindsight I can sum up the below as...

No. Schools don't teach people.
People teach people.


His election is their fault.
Letting him do it is their fault.

But it's deeper, actually.

People get elected and people then have to stfu ...
... and that's exactly what they do. I see it in Austria just as much.

The schools aren't to blame.
Why?

Because people confuse words like "schools" with who is teaching.

The people.
And it's the people who blindly accept what they are being told to do ...
... and don't speak up in masses against the bullshit that's happening.

Like teachers who oppose gendercrap and anti-authority bullshit.

So ... again.
Not schools.
The teachers.
People.

When you read newspapers here it's always "Austria has this",
"Austria does that", "Austria is shocked", etc.

Who is this Austria? The politicians.
Yet it's meant as "the people".
You read "schools" and think schools do anything.
They don't. They are buildings.

Who teaches?
The people.

You have this bullshit literally everywhere and people accept it without thinking.


Try again ... I can adress every argument and it always comes down to those
who do not speak up and blindly follow every bullshit that is being declared as correct.

Me. You.
Everyone.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
#66 - 2015-05-16 10:28:17 UTC
Citadels of virtuality, that's what MMO games are.

Where we can all be safe.

Putting our stuff in our banks that are safe from the voracious greed of Wall St goons.

Owning wonderful things that we will never own in real life.

Doing things we wouldn't do in real life.

Because MMOs are safe.

Even if we die, we come back, reborn because we carebears don't like loss.

And we are all carebears to some extent, playing safely at keyboards with CCP keeping the datastreams safe for us.

Even keeping the forums safe for us.

There's a little carebear in us all, not very cute usually, and with a financial bite that drives game designers to look at ways to let us ramp risk levels up on our own, as we learn the games and get bored with being too safe.

As it is now, we have NPC citadels.

Perfectly safe places to store our goodies, and alts that never go anywhere dangerous.

For my money, having a more player designable version of that is a good thing.

~ ~~ Thinking inside Schrodinger's sandbox. ~~ ~
Minmatar Citizen 534612187
Citizen Corp.
#67 - 2015-05-16 11:11:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaeranos
This is baffling.

Could someone explain to me what, exactly, a "carebear" is? So far, the only real difference I see is that carebears don't engage in PvP combat. But it looks like the same people who suicide gank miners, explorers, and haulers—fits that generally are not equipped for PvP (and thus pose no risk to the aggressor)—complain that HighSec is too safe and not risky enough.

Doesn't HighSec stand for high security?