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CCP! Please clarify the future plans for WiS!

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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#1721 - 2011-12-27 14:06:19 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:


My vote has always been to let CCP do what they want and make the game they want to make. I say we shut the whiny little fucks up who *****, protest and shoot at statues.


That has already been done and it sent a clear message to CCP, making the game they want to make and so they are.

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oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#1722 - 2011-12-27 16:02:13 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
It's amazing to me how completely greedy the FiS crowd is. Seems to me the WiS crowd wants to see work done on both FiS and WiS while the FiS crowd wants nothing but FiS to be worked on...

My vote has always been to let CCP do what they want and make the game they want to make. I say we shut the whiny little fucks up who *****, protest and shoot at statues.


well DUST beta is coming ,lets see how much will be done on FIS or WIS

R.S.I2014
Dors Venabily
United Starbase Systems
#1723 - 2011-12-27 16:16:47 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
It's amazing to me how completely greedy the FiS crowd is. Seems to me the WiS crowd wants to see work done on both FiS and WiS while the FiS crowd wants nothing but FiS to be worked on...

My vote has always been to let CCP do what they want and make the game they want to make. I say we shut the whiny little fucks up who *****, protest and shoot at statues.


well DUST beta is coming ,lets see how much will be done on FIS or WIS



Roll


OK now go and dress up sheesh someone kill this thread already.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1724 - 2011-12-27 16:49:22 UTC
Dors Venabily wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
It's amazing to me how completely greedy the FiS crowd is. Seems to me the WiS crowd wants to see work done on both FiS and WiS while the FiS crowd wants nothing but FiS to be worked on...

My vote has always been to let CCP do what they want and make the game they want to make. I say we shut the whiny little fucks up who *****, protest and shoot at statues.


well DUST beta is coming ,lets see how much will be done on FIS or WIS



Roll


OK now go and dress up sheesh someone kill this thread already.


You are not very smart, are you ?
Dors Venabily
United Starbase Systems
#1725 - 2011-12-27 17:00:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Dors Venabily
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
Dors Venabily wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
It's amazing to me how completely greedy the FiS crowd is. Seems to me the WiS crowd wants to see work done on both FiS and WiS while the FiS crowd wants nothing but FiS to be worked on...

My vote has always been to let CCP do what they want and make the game they want to make. I say we shut the whiny little fucks up who *****, protest and shoot at statues.


well DUST beta is coming ,lets see how much will be done on FIS or WIS



Roll


OK now go and dress up sheesh someone kill this thread already.


You are not very smart, are you ?


Actually I am probably much smarter than most of the people posting in this thread supporting the WIS even though there has been hundreds of pages of reasons listed for why CCP did what it did.

Be it from the business, technical, corporate restructuring or customer point of view.

Anyone with half a brain cell should have known that by page 10 of this thread.

The fact that people still go on, even though there is a clear line of reasoning against this from all of the perspectives I can think of, is truly beyond me.

Hence the short and pretty much summary answer in my previous post sir.

Does this more detailed answer satisfy you ?

edit : wanted to go on but ...
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1726 - 2011-12-27 17:13:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted
well there is clear line of reasoning against eating red meat..
Still some people like it..
Western modern life is not the best from business/technical/corporate restructuring or customer point of view either.

And if you know what was the original plan and the fact that it was indeed supported by people "who takes this more seriously then just another game".

And the fact that you want this thread to die and still bumping it up .. well go figure.
CCP is just afraid, rightfully so, because their nah saying customers acts like spoiled brats.
What happened to Fearless CCP with their vision and if you dont like GTFO policy ?
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1727 - 2011-12-27 17:26:42 UTC
Congratulations on this huge Thread.

Also: Congratulations to everybody who still denies reality.
Cap Tyrian
Guiding Hand Social Club
#1728 - 2011-12-27 17:39:11 UTC
I don't care what pro WiS and anti WiS people argue.

I got mad as hell about Greed is Good? and the terrible failures that came with it.
I got mad as hell about the communication between CCP and Us and the lol deveblogs
I got mad as hell as Mr. Smarrtas*s thought ship spinning is obsolete now that they have minmatar C.Q..
And "The Door"

I was confused about the horse armor, the prices aren't the problem, i just expected something different.
Expectation management in general is poor from ccp side so nothing new there but they did top themselves in some regards.

But i do and have allays wished for the iteration of WiS. Its the next big step, a very hot topic but it must come , its integration is to be dealt with high caution and it should be discussed with the community ahead of time +
++ + PLUS ++´+ when some devs claim the community likes or dislikes something , they should for good sake reefer to whom gave them that impression, we all have seen it before, a thousand page rage thread and ccp seas we love it cos two anonymous forum troll alts said they like it.

Anyways i do belief CCP have evolved and are on the right path now, i hope that path will lead to better FiS and some WIS before i die of old age.
Razin
The Scope
#1729 - 2011-12-27 17:50:36 UTC
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:

My vote has always been to let CCP do what they want and make the game they want to make. I say we shut the whiny little fucks up who *****, protest and shoot at statues.

After everything that happened this sounds literally imbecilic (actually it's ret_arded, but that word is sensored by these ret_arded forums).
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1730 - 2011-12-27 18:04:36 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Congratulations on this huge Thread.

Also: Congratulations to everybody who still denies reality.


what is reality ? can you deny something you are not able to understand due to being an living creature ?
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#1731 - 2011-12-27 18:06:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuronaga
Lexmana wrote:
Disdaine wrote:
robbyx wrote:
Disdaine wrote:
robbyx wrote:
drama queens.....cry....protest


Lets go shoot a statue, spam CCP investors email, get banned raging at GM's, make spergy blog posts...

That'll show em who the drama queens are.



Thats called protest, taking a stand for something you believe in strongly enough.....seriously, you guys just come across as whiny little 12 year old girls having a little foot stomping tantrum.


Maybe we can unsub and come slinkin back later after CCP has laid off some more people then let the CSM take all the credit for effecting change.

That seems like the mature thing to do, rather than make a few complaints in a single forum thread which WiS haters still can't stay away from.


You know, focusing on FiS never made players to unsub and CCP never had to lay off people because of FiS. It was focusing on WiS that did that.


One room, a poorly optimized engine, and a microtransaction barbie store was not focus. It was incompetence of the highest degree.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1732 - 2011-12-27 18:09:38 UTC
I dont like NEX they selling nothing for too much..

But

they will sell 100mil SP soon for aur and and titans and polaris firgates and t20 modules through aur

RAAAGGGEEEEE .. Unsubb.. sounds reasonable..

Ah they focusing on FiS again.. awesome

I hate WiS ..
well interesting history if you are an patient in some mental health sanatorium..
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#1733 - 2011-12-27 18:27:11 UTC
robbyx wrote:
They have already given you the only answer you're going to get..." on the back burner and maybe re-visited some time in the future "......deal with it.


Kuronaga wrote:
Unfortunately as much as this means to some of us, I believe the job description of an eve community manager is to "pass along relevant information", not to necessarily care.

Besides that, it is clear they are set in their current direction. They are likely prohibited from saying ANYTHING validating possible work on WIS in this thread, because the higher ups are scared to death it might cause dissent. This is the kind of irrational fear you get from management not properly understanding a situation.



CCP understand perfectly well....that the majority of players want FiS over WiS.......they now understand that neglecting FiS can seriously hurt the game....whereas WiS seems to be nothing more than a few drama queens who are not willing to do anything more than have a little cry on the forums.

Ive said before, if you feel so strongly, quit and tell CCP why you are quitting...or organise a protest to show your displeasure....but my guess is that you wont do jack sh*t.


indeed lets make sure that CCP do another panic change of direction again
But thats what we don,t want to happen.
You only FIS morons seem to forget we like the FISpart of this game
We only want WIS added in a way FIS isn,t neglected
People protesting at the summerrage ,just said stop this or we go!!
But we don,t want CCP head into another direction again,just some love from a small crew devoted to WIS
and all we want to know if it is possible


it is no use for protest ,bc we don,t demand something,we are only asking for info

R.S.I2014
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1734 - 2011-12-27 20:16:33 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Congratulations on this huge Thread.

Also: Congratulations to everybody who still denies reality.

If you removed all of the people trolling the barbie fetishists the thread would be two pages long.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1735 - 2011-12-27 21:03:27 UTC
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
It's amazing to me how completely greedy the FiS crowd is. Seems to me the WiS crowd wants to see work done on both FiS and WiS while the FiS crowd wants nothing but FiS to be worked on...

My vote has always been to let CCP do what they want and make the game they want to make. I say we shut the whiny little fucks up who *****, protest and shoot at statues.


well DUST beta is coming ,lets see how much will be done on FIS or WIS



People need to remember there are not more people working on eve now than when incarna was released. They fired 200 people.

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Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1736 - 2011-12-27 23:17:46 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
It's amazing to me how completely greedy the FiS crowd is. Seems to me the WiS crowd wants to see work done on both FiS and WiS while the FiS crowd wants nothing but FiS to be worked on...

My vote has always been to let CCP do what they want and make the game they want to make. I say we shut the whiny little fucks up who *****, protest and shoot at statues.


well DUST beta is coming ,lets see how much will be done on FIS or WIS



People need to remember there are not more people working on eve now than when incarna was released. They fired 200 people.

And for that we can blame the crybabies that rage quit over petty crap. I am still predicting that DUST will not only make CCP more money but will also draw in more players to play EvE making them even more money. Same thing would have happened if WiS was completed. I am willing to bet that EvE would have made more back in new subs over the losers that quit if they had kept going with WiS and didn't back down on it. I still like Crucible and everything it has brought us in new ships and content but completing WiS should not be dismissed by CCP. While focus should remain on FiS, WiS should not be left behind and should be finished sooner rather than later.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#1737 - 2011-12-27 23:48:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:

And for that we can blame the crybabies that rage quit over petty crap.


Statements like that is why you and others get referred to as "Space-Barbie dressup people".

I'd hardly call people quitting after CCP mostly abandoned FIS for 2 years after ignoring 8 years worth of bugged/unfinished features to work on 2 other games "petty". Especially when it was leaked that they really didn't give a crap what we thought, because we'd just keep paying them. CCP literally dared players to vote with their wallets and that is exactly what a lot of players did.

"..this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. "
-Hilmar Petursson Thu, 23 Jun 2011

Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:

I am willing to bet that EvE would have made more back in new subs over the losers that quit if they had kept going with WiS and didn't back down on it.


You'd lose that bet because the technology just isn't there right now to do this properly, i.e. the way people like you are expecting it to work. Hilmar himself has had to concede this to the CSM recently.

CSM 6 Dec Summit Report


Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:

CCP. While focus should remain on FiS, WiS should not be left behind and should be finished sooner rather than later.


They have already stated it's not abandoned, you do know what being placed on the "backburner" means correct?


If any players really think CCP is ignoring you or that WIS has been abandoned, you should unsub now. They aren't going to say a thing about WIS until fanfest, so sticking your fingers in your ears and stamping your feet demanding answers just makes you all look ignorant and immature.

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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#1738 - 2011-12-27 23:52:51 UTC  |  Edited by: MotherMoon
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:
oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
It's amazing to me how completely greedy the FiS crowd is. Seems to me the WiS crowd wants to see work done on both FiS and WiS while the FiS crowd wants nothing but FiS to be worked on...

My vote has always been to let CCP do what they want and make the game they want to make. I say we shut the whiny little fucks up who *****, protest and shoot at statues.


well DUST beta is coming ,lets see how much will be done on FIS or WIS



People need to remember there are not more people working on eve now than when incarna was released. They fired 200 people.

And for that we can blame the crybabies that rage quit over petty crap. I am still predicting that DUST will not only make CCP more money but will also draw in more players to play EvE making them even more money. Same thing would have happened if WiS was completed. I am willing to bet that EvE would have made more back in new subs over the losers that quit if they had kept going with WiS and didn't back down on it. I still like Crucible and everything it has brought us in new ships and content but completing WiS should not be dismissed by CCP. While focus should remain on FiS, WiS should not be left behind and should be finished sooner rather than later.


yeah but even the WiS lovers like me quit over that terrible expansion.


also to guy above, they only put people on WiS for 6 months. The lack of good FiS features had nothing to do with WiS devoplment. Think about it. They were just being bad. All those other FiS only expansion that came out, while ignoring the playerbase was to blame. Incarna was just the tipping point

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Soma Khan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1739 - 2011-12-27 23:53:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Soma Khan
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:
MotherMoon wrote:

People need to remember there are not more people working on eve now than when incarna was released. They fired 200 people.

And for that we can blame the crybabies that rage quit over petty crap. I am still predicting that DUST will not only make CCP more money but will also draw in more players to play EvE making them even more money. Same thing would have happened if WiS was completed. I am willing to bet that EvE would have made more back in new subs over the losers that quit if they had kept going with WiS and didn't back down on it. I still like Crucible and everything it has brought us in new ships and content but completing WiS should not be dismissed by CCP. While focus should remain on FiS, WiS should not be left behind and should be finished sooner rather than later.

man your absolutely right if ccp was able to make great wis content more ppl would come and join and then if wis was better than wow ppl would quit wow and join eve and then if dust was great ppl would quit xbox and halo and come and join eve and if ccp made great wod and vampires ppl would come and join eve and more subs would make more moneys for ccp and ccp would make more wis contend so we can plays with our avatars and cool stuff like that cause we know that wis content will be great. you are totally the only smart person posting in this thread cause like you know exactly what would happen if other stuff was to happen as a result of some other cool stuff happening. really
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#1740 - 2011-12-27 23:54:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Double post.

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