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Switching names of characters that belong to the same account
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Pip Paddlein
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-05-07 16:46:47 UTC
What would this feature accomplish?

(1) Player A has a character with a nice, catchy name. Player B has lots of ISK and is not happy with his main's name. He can buy the char in question from player A and start using that name instead.

(2) A noob made a character with a stupid name. He did not expect being sucked into EVE the way he was. Poor noob. In this scenario he could have a different name.

(3) CCP likes micro-transactions. With this feature, CCP could have more micro-transactions.

Given that former character-names could and should be documented, this feature would not open a can of abuse-worms.


Possible Limitations:

  • age of involved chars has to be greater than [useful limitation, e.g one month]
  • limited number of switches per account


Possible cost: 5$ per change.

Yay or nay?
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#2 - 2015-05-07 17:21:14 UTC
Ney.

Your name is your reputation. Your reputation means something in EVE (see: it can mean the difference between me shooting you on sight, ignoring you, or being friends with you).

Granted... alts kinda put a wrench in this concept... but then again, they don't. Once your alt has been ID'd it will carry the same reputation that your main character has.
Being able to "trade names" for what is essentially a "pittance" means that names don't have any meaning anymore.

How did you Veterans start?
Pip Paddlein
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-05-07 17:37:13 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Ney.

Your name is your reputation. Your reputation means something in EVE (see: it can mean the difference between me shooting you on sight, ignoring you, or being friends with you).

Granted... alts kinda put a wrench in this concept... but then again, they don't. Once your alt has been ID'd it will carry the same reputation that your main character has.
Being able to "trade names" for what is essentially a "pittance" means that names don't have any meaning anymore.


The ability to use alts, including alts on different accounts, to try to hide who one is alreay exists, as you pointed out, and is not affected by this proposal.

A player with a name that has a meaningful reputation will never give that name up.

Being able to switch and trade names in a limited way would not affect the meaningfulness of names. It is rather a vanity feature and would not help anyone escaping their reputation or pretending to be someone else, for the reasons given above.
Iain Cariaba
#4 - 2015-05-07 18:06:36 UTC
Pip Paddlein wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Ney.

Your name is your reputation. Your reputation means something in EVE (see: it can mean the difference between me shooting you on sight, ignoring you, or being friends with you).

Granted... alts kinda put a wrench in this concept... but then again, they don't. Once your alt has been ID'd it will carry the same reputation that your main character has.
Being able to "trade names" for what is essentially a "pittance" means that names don't have any meaning anymore.


The ability to use alts, including alts on different accounts, to try to hide who one is alreay exists, as you pointed out, and is not affected by this proposal.

A player with a name that has a meaningful reputation will never give that name up.

Being able to switch and trade names in a limited way would not affect the meaningfulness of names. It is rather a vanity feature and would not help anyone escaping their reputation or pretending to be someone else, for the reasons given above.

Being able to switch to an alt is not the same as renaming an existing character. An alt has a different history than your current character, in fact some people play their alts as totally different people.

When CCP introduced titans, they thought there would only be three or four of them in the game, ever. Everything has a price in EvE, so saying that something will never happen is asinine.

Being able to change your name in EvE is exactly the ability to escape your reputation. There are probably hundreds, if not thousands, of awoxers, spies, and corp thieves that would have a collective orgasm over being able to erase the bad names they've developed.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2015-05-07 18:28:30 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Pip Paddlein wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Ney.

Your name is your reputation. Your reputation means something in EVE (see: it can mean the difference between me shooting you on sight, ignoring you, or being friends with you).

Granted... alts kinda put a wrench in this concept... but then again, they don't. Once your alt has been ID'd it will carry the same reputation that your main character has.
Being able to "trade names" for what is essentially a "pittance" means that names don't have any meaning anymore.


The ability to use alts, including alts on different accounts, to try to hide who one is alreay exists, as you pointed out, and is not affected by this proposal.

A player with a name that has a meaningful reputation will never give that name up.

Being able to switch and trade names in a limited way would not affect the meaningfulness of names. It is rather a vanity feature and would not help anyone escaping their reputation or pretending to be someone else, for the reasons given above.

I have 3 characters on this account. This one, a hauling one, and a ganker/AWOXing/scammer/thief one.

I would not hesitate to change the hauling and G.A.S.T. character names around... because the hauler doesn't join any corps (or interact with anyone beyond the market) and the G.A.S.T. is already recognized by many, many people upon entering certain systems.

How did you Veterans start?
Pip Paddlein
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-05-07 18:40:04 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:

Being able to switch to an alt is not the same as renaming an existing character. An alt has a different history than your current character, in fact some people play their alts as totally different people.

When CCP introduced titans, they thought there would only be three or four of them in the game, ever. Everything has a price in EvE, so saying that something will never happen is asinine.

Being able to change your name in EvE is exactly the ability to escape your reputation. There are probably hundreds, if not thousands, of awoxers, spies, and corp thieves that would have a collective orgasm over being able to erase the bad names they've developed.


With former names documented publicly or reachable per API any routine background check would find out known awoxers, thieves and spies. Alts are better fit for their purpose.

Beyond that, a limit might be imposed on the maximum age a character can reach before a name switch becomes impossible.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2015-05-07 20:09:48 UTC
I regret calling myself Kanerian, as it sound cheezy... But I don't cry about it. People with a bad name should just make a joke about it.
Iain Cariaba
#8 - 2015-05-07 20:18:06 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
I regret calling myself Kanerian, as it sound cheezy... But I don't cry about it. People with a bad name should just make a joke about it.

If only you knew how many times I've had to explain to people that my name starts with an uppercase "i" and not a lowercase "L." But, I deal with it.
Tabyll Altol
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2015-05-07 20:45:11 UTC
Nope no name change if you choose a stuip name deal with it, or buy some char.

-1
Iain Cariaba
#10 - 2015-05-07 22:01:28 UTC
Pip Paddlein wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:

Being able to switch to an alt is not the same as renaming an existing character. An alt has a different history than your current character, in fact some people play their alts as totally different people.

When CCP introduced titans, they thought there would only be three or four of them in the game, ever. Everything has a price in EvE, so saying that something will never happen is asinine.

Being able to change your name in EvE is exactly the ability to escape your reputation. There are probably hundreds, if not thousands, of awoxers, spies, and corp thieves that would have a collective orgasm over being able to erase the bad names they've developed.


With former names documented publicly or reachable per API any routine background check would find out known awoxers, thieves and spies. Alts are better fit for their purpose.

Beyond that, a limit might be imposed on the maximum age a character can reach before a name switch becomes impossible.

If you have to keep adding more and more limits to your idea to cover the massive holes other players are punching in it, perhaps you should let the bad idea sink.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#11 - 2015-05-08 00:16:56 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
I regret calling myself Kanerian, as it sound cheezy... But I don't cry about it. People with a bad name should just make a joke about it.

I regret sharing a last name with a pizza crust, for similar reason.

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
#12 - 2015-05-08 17:11:56 UTC  |  Edited by: McChicken Combo HalfMayo
You don't get to complain about changing your name until you've named yourself after a combo at a fast food joint.

There are all our dominion

Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#13 - 2015-05-08 18:39:32 UTC  |  Edited by: James Baboli
McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:
You don't get to complain about changing your name until you've named yourself after a combo at a fast food joint.

Not even my crust name is as bad as that.


Though I propose a reasonable price point. 10 plex per 1m SP, rounded up to the nearest 100m SP.

Talking more,

Flying crazier,

And drinking more

Making battleships worth the warp