Player Features and Ideas Discussion

And there you have it.

changing the faction and deadspace AB's to all be the same speed is a bad change.

It was a good choice that more fitting gave you more speed and that you had a choice of what you wanted from your prop mod. now the only choice is CPU or PG.

the MWD changes i guess are alright although the 5-50-500 thing i don't particularly like either it's better staying as 1-10-100

I really like the return of the flavour names I was one of the people who campaigned against there removal in the first place.

MWD's do not need more speed.

The guy earlier saying the difference between 500 and 518 isn't that much forgot to take into account skills, implants and links.

atm a 500% mwd with acc con 5 = 600% mwd, add zors it becomes 656.25%

so yes an 18% increase on the base is quite a large change once you start adding just zors.

Please don't add the old-fashioned flavor names. Needlessly complicated.

Also, please don't increase the top end speed even more. Nerf the lower meta stuff. Ships are already too fast.

Finally, I'd prefer it if the Republic Fleet modules remained more cap efficient - that is why I chose them for many of my fits.

The naming changes are a head scratcher.

CCP was doing the right thing in changing mods to a convention of "special-name" + "common-name",

But here the most basic T1 AB and MW mods are breaking the convention by going to

"1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner"

instead of sticking to the improved convention change of

"Y-S8 1MN Afterburner"

note the deadspace mods already fit the improved name.

Breaking that convention makes things more complex to search and comparisons and confusing to new and vet players alike.

Recommend sticking the improved convention... in other words make them all like : "Y-S8 1MN Afterburner" etc.

As a noo player I was told early to fit 1mn on the frigate baots and 10 on the cruiser and the others on the biggers and I truly believe that changing the way we teach our future clone children to tell them at all said that we have to tell them about 5, and 50 and 500 I think we will confuse them.

And I thought that the CCP got ridded of the cold-gas thrusters because they made naming not particular easy for noo to remember then changed it so all had easy remembering. Now they change it back to cold-gas I don't understand make it harder surely?

By that I hope you mean, "And there you have it, another eve player that can't do the maths."

I agree with what other competent posters have said: the speed creep is a bad sign and has been increasingly hurting game play for almost 3 years. If anything, there should be a general speed nerf on microwarpdrives in particular and a larger difference on drawbacks/fitting requirements among the meta levels to make fitting decisions even more meaningful. Ever since the teiricide started, way back in Retribution with the initial rebalance of T1 frigates, almost everything got a speed boost and every has gotten faster in game, and it has not been healthy especially with the proliferation of links and faster ships added like garmurs etc.

OK, this is a bit ridiculous, all this fussing over 1MN, 5MN, etc. Module sizes, with respect to ship classes, already have a standardized naming scheme: Small, Medium, Large. That's what we use for rigs, for micro jump drives, for shield extenders (but not armor plates, sigh). Microwarpdrives don't need a bigger number in their name to suggest that they're faster than an afterburner, it's intrinsic to the module type.

I understand the misgivings about speed creep, but as long as that speed is coming at an appropriate fitting and capacitor cost, I don't have as big an issue with it. Sure, it changes the overall meta, but it makes MWD choice that bit more meaningful, which is overall a step in the right direction. Maybe it'll mean more changes required elsewhere, but that is the nature of balancing: sometimes you tug at a thread and unravel a whole string of changes.

Quafe Zero.

It's not, it's tied to meta levels and the higher meta modules are more or less better in every way.