EVE General Discussion

they cant give you garanty.

The Quafe Vexor , Tristan and Dominix was for those who buy Fanfest Ticket.

The price was (of course) really heavy for those ship, and many people buyed them and sell them because they was limited for FanFest ticket only.

And after ... CCP give Free Tristan Quafe for 3 month subscription, one more vexor Quafe if 6month and dominix for years. Ok, i think there is just some player afect by the dominix, but without news about this, many player buyed a year of sub before this offer, i don't know if they have found some solution, refund or anything else, but i don't understand why CCP offer for Ticket , and virtual ticket, limited Ship skin, waiting and enjoy the money from those ticket, and after joking on the customer when offer those ticket gift in subscription gift .... what the hell ?

Simple, CCP didn't care, in 6 month CCP did so mush mystake, that obvius they just want money, and going into micro transaction process etc, maybe the new extension will be DLC soon ? i am kiding, but i am really afraid when i see what way CCP take

I am pretty sure, if CCP would change al existing Quafe SKINs into licenses that you could put onto any ship, everyone that invested into them will make huge bank.

I know I would pay 2bil for such a license.

Edit: Unless you invested into Quafe Megas after the patch. Those thing have become damn expensive

Wow. Two billion for a full set licence?

Six months from now, you won't get a Qafe Vexor for that, let alone one of the battleships. They'll be in the 5 to 15b range depending on the model.

No, CCP. Don't even think about touching unique ship skins. Or introducing color schemes close to them on the Tristan, Catalyst, Vexor, Dominix and Megathron.

Mr Epeen

Thanks for the response :)

But it would be nice, since as you said, everyone in CCP is on the same page, that you share the plans with us now. Before writing the Dev Blog, that way if WE aren't on the same page, we can have a healthy discussion about it, before any final decisions are made. I mean why wait a week for a dev blog that could (potentially) leave the issue as divided then as it is now, when you guys can give us a run down now, and we can talk it out. It's not like I want specifics, I'm not saying we need dates, Aurum numbers, etc for everything. But a general idea of the direction that is being taken. Even something as simple as "We plan to make most skins available for all ships" (or not) which is probably the biggest issue at the moment. Pricing is another issue, but lets be honest, there will be fewer complaints about price, if there was (or will soon be) a greater variety of skins such that we truly can have our ships look the way we want, even if "lore" wise it's not the way the companies or Empires would prefer lol.

Additionally, this bug has created the greatest Hype for the SKIN's system. Even more than when it was announced, or released. Now is the time to engage us about it. Waiting a week only puts a damper on things. For sure it makes people less likey to spend on SKIN's cause they have no idea what the plans are next week. CCP, Ride the Hype Train. Keep the discussion up. Engage us while interest is at it's peak, and have an open discussion about what the plans are for the future, and what you've learned so far. As I see it, there's a 33% chance next week you'll say We're opening skins up to all hulls, 33% chance you'll say you guys are SOL Skins will stay by race, and 33% something inbetween.. (The last 1% is you only get skins for non-racial ships if you eat Hákarl..).. With it all in the air, why would I spend any more on them? Why would I buy more Aurum? I wouldn't.

As you said, the Dev's are on the same page, so give us the table of contents so we know the direction being taken. We don't need the full rundown, point by point, or every change and plan, just the direction that you're planning.

Here is a quote from reddid by CCP falcon
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/34t9gm/confirmed_bug_fixed_skins_reset/cqy3n9m

I'm looking at the bigger picture here. This is about confidence in the system. If you want people to buy into something then they need to be confident that everything isn't going to suddenly change a couple of weeks later and they are left out of pocket.

If you come to me and buy a new car for £10,000, and then next month you found out that I sold the exact same model of car to your friend for £5,000, your going to have no confidence in buying from me again.

Some variation is of course reasonable, but you have to keep it within reasonable limits if you don't want people to lose all confidence and never buy again.

Your logic is flawed. CCP never said they wouldn't release these skins again, or make them publicly available. CCP only promised for a Timed Exclusive. Just like those of use who got stuff from the Collectors Edition had. It's not CCP's problem, or fault, if you decided to gamble that they won't do something that will affect the price.

It's more like if you sold that car with the promise it would be one of a limited run and then fired up the production line once it was sold.

This is how it would be if CCP messed with exclusive skins that were part of a limited run. One that people spent over a hundred dollars on or traveled to Iceland. CCP said do one of these things and we'll give you something that will never again be in the game.

They'd be shooting themselves in the foot if they changed that. Next year when they are trying to shill one-year time packages, people will remember this and ignore them.

That is the simple reason you don't mess with exclusive skins.

Mr Epeen

So when they change the SKINs into proper and actually useful licenses, what do you think you would THEN get for your stockpile? They could keep adding them from time to time, for example every fanfest in some kind of promotion, and they would still be incrredibly valuable just BECAUSE they´re so useful.

The equilibrium would be for me my own combination of colors and logo of my corporation on the ship.
This combination, my design corporate skin, designed for aurum, this SKIN would have to be available to corp members only when they are in corporation. If you think pink is too much, just dont include it in predesigned color palette.

For more unique skins for aurum in store (rather than only colored ships) see below, the screenshoot from 2014 fanfest. More than color, more than corporate design, the blinged cloth for your most flyed, most loved ship model. Collated by hull size, not particular one ship model, so if you have cruiser, be it tech 2 or pirate, you will buy it, because it fits and is badass.