EVE General Discussion

First off, the old system was horrible because nobody would undock their special edition ships, I am not endorsing it in any way. I do possess a few limited edition skins, and I would be one of the people who would be very happy if their value increases...

But does anybody else think it's a bit of a daft situation that with the new skin system only a specific number of characters can ever use these skins, while everyone else will never get the chance? Don't get me wrong, I do understand what 'limited edition' means, but at least with the old system anyone could be the owner of a beautiful Quafe edition Dominix with enough effort and investment. But with this new system, it won't be long before most of these skins have been locked to characters, and it is unlikely that many of the characters with these skins will still be active sometime in the not-so-distant future. And to me that feels like a huge waste.

The current skin system, where applied skins cannot be removed or recovered, does make sense when put in the context of CCP's business model - locking skins to specific characters = more skins bought, fair enough. However, this does not apply to limited edition skins in any way... So why can't we have a different system just for limited edition skins which allows for their removal and resale after use? Not only will more people use the skins instead of waiting to sell them once their value appreciates, but the average joe of future eve online might still yet have a chance of owning one of these skins, and I for one would be very happy to still see some of these beautiful ship skins flying about in a few years time...

...or am I the only one?

They'll just have another promotion with same skins...

They've gone into this.

Before: Cosmetic collectible ships sit in hangars, never seen or used by anyone.

Now: Cosmetic collectible SKINs get applied and used in game, but price will rise over time for popular SKINs with no new supply.

Yes it's a trade off, but it's very deliberate.

Note also that the only reason you can make the argument that the prior system allowed more people to enjoy the SKINs is because they never undocked. If the costs or benefits or something were different and people flew collectible ships prior to the new system, it would be even worse, because supply would drop from destruction.

That is the case with many items in eve already. T2 BPOs for instance. There are some items which some of us will simply never own. It is good to have some limited items in the game though as adds to the richness of the universe.

the only thing i would say is the ability to remove the lisense so you cna resell it later might be nice. But honestly, i rather see the ship out and about then collecting dust in a hanger

You know, if you look up the item by typing the name into your chat window, highlight it, right click auto link to item. Suddenly there are many versions of the same skins, just not perminantly bound to your character if you use them. Every ship skin seems to have a 7 day, 30 day, and 365 day time limited variant. All this seems to tell me is that soon the LP markets will fill up with these other skins. So don't freak out so much over the costs of the ones we have now, just wait until CCP tells us more about the time limited skins.

So CCP what is the verdict on these other time limited skins?

I've said in the other topics and I'll say it here.. I think there should be a way to un-install skins, but it shouldn't be cheap. For example playing a PLEX (or two) to remove it for re-sale.. This keeps the low end ones from being able to flood the market with people who only cared about them for a week, while still leaving the option open for selling rare(ish) skins like the Scorp, Quafe Mega and Domi, Soon to be Victory RS, etc.

You can't rush the steps of this dance.

CCP MUST allow enough time for the current "rare" or "limited edition" permanent skins to make them as much money as possible. They've just been introduced, it's gonna take a few weeks until the initial sales go down, and then CCP can offer a few skins as promotions bundled with PLEX packages or with 1 year subscription deals, and they have to wait another couple weeks to a month for those sales to simmer down.

Then they can announce their plans for the time limited versions, and if you look at what other MMO's have done, they have "limited edition" skins tied to the various holidays, to the yearly Alliance Tournament events, to PLEX-for-good donation drives, to anniversary dates, to expansions that are being released, and so on.

The market interface will go into TIDI because of so many different types of skins being put on sale.

But the worst thing that CCP can possibly do as a company is to rush and announce all their plans now, because YOU can't wait.

And besides, you have to give time for the market speculators to make their profits too. So shush now or they'll get angry at lost profits and wardec you.

Indeed you could, but I'd bet the vast majority of use cases didn't, and probably the same with the other skins to decreasing degrees corresponding with abundance and replenishability. That's the issue this tries to solve: reluctance to use for those that wanted to. Yes, it introduces the issue you bring up, but as stated before for the most part that probably isn't actually an issue compared to people just not undocking with the ship.

Some of these ships were given with the promise that they were special and limited edition ships.
They are not commonplace and because they are not common they are not cheap. This is exactly what makes them desirable.
Why encourage CCP to go back on its word and make them more undesirable by making them easier to get and more commonplace? CCP goes into each sale as a binding contract in which there are many promises of value and it is important that they uphold that value because doing so means upholding their word and maintaining customers that trust that word and the certainty of that contract.

The same reason you'll never drive a Ferrari.