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That's so true and a sad reflection of the "civilized" world of today.

Thanks!

If you feel that you are unjustly KOS contact a CVA diplo and ask them why this is like this. More often than not you can be KOS by corp history and if you or your corp have killed a provi member in highsec, lowse, or other null regions. Alliances who use neutral alts NPC corps to hotdrop onto ratters and miners are labeled perminantly KOS in most cases. With NRDS you have to actually pay attention to what is happening in system, if you don't you may find yourself In a pod with a stupid loss mail.

That being said, the nature of the way eve works means that having a fleet in stand by to save every person ratting 23/7 in every system an entity owns is impossible. The responsibility rests with the person flying the ship to have backup. That is no different to any other space, and as providence is close to highsec, it gets a lot of traffic. We enjoy these fighting groups who come on 'friendly' terms to get some kills. I remember a streamer who came into one of the systems I live in and on the stream he had said on the way there, we can get good kills in said system. They then got wiped out by two remote repping domi's flown by some friends of mine. It was a beautiful fight and I wish I had been online at the time.

My point with this is, the key is not that you should inherently rely on the sov holder defending you 23/7, but that if you are out In space the only protection you need is the protection you get yourself. Too many people who live down here never do that so they always complain that people won't help them when they get a hotdropper ontop of their expensive ship or mining barge. I have seen this happen constantly for 2 years. (Eep been down here a long time) It seems mind boggling that this happens, and I have seen some people forced out of provi because the red set them on a watch list and would kill them every time they logged on. (Yeah true story that one) it's mind boggling sometimes but you get used to it.

The danger level between providence and the rest of nullsec is that one can safely afk ships to make income, and the other will always lose afk ships. I have hardly ever seen someone who was actively paying attention to eve getting caught, usually the people getting caught were watching Netflix in another window or just not even there.

I encourage all who really want to lose their KOS status to contact CVA diplos and other sov holders' diplos in providence. If you are minmatar faction warfare GG you are always KOS because RP reasons and Amarr victor. To anyone else that wishes to come down and pvp have fun and I wish you good fights.

Atomic is tellin' it like it is.

Don't stay in a dead corp for sentimental reasons, all that's going to achieve is to make you quit EVE.

Provi is a good a place as any in nullsec, and better than most. They don't generally have the nastiness and toxicity that some other entities have a reputation for.

Man, I knew NCdawt&co were ****, but wow.
I never thought I would say this, but go Provi.
Though, I do feel compelled to ask for a rundown of the fight.

What about Rooks&Kings?
They helped you out quite a while ago.

I'm sure that'd still be the case?

Not needed, and the invitation was Aaron, that still bothers you doesn't it, move on mate its just a game.


As for Provi, the thought of heading to Providence and blapping massed Goon interceptors is rather appealing, but I am red to Provi block due to me roaming there once (actually more than that) and my ex-Corp FC liking to roam there when bored.

Reading what you just did to NCDOT and PL warmed the cockles of me heart, I wonder if my corpies have given up on GTA 5 by June, I hope so, having said that I think all of them are KOS too...


As for NCDOT I would think their plan is to try and save their alliance, all their recent activity smacks of fail cascade, which I noted when some of their leadership who don't normally go in fleets did so in their first invasion (cough) of Fountain, the second invasion was to try to get their people to log in, so now they are going after easier fights then the CFC, so kick their ass they deserve it...

EDIT: I half expect NCDOT to merge into PL...

EDIT2: OK if my alliance is not doing its own thing in 0.0 due to lack of activity then I will come to Provi to help you defend it.

Yes clearly your NRDS spirit shines here. But, since I've have zero interaction with providence in my 4 yrs I'm sure I am KOS... like most of New Eden is virtually by the default state of your faulty system.

I give neuts the SOV alliances linked so they can set them to a colour, advise them to keep Local open and treat any one not of that list as potentially hostile until proven otherwise. Further, I mention that they probably want to get safe and away from gates when Local leaps up in numbers because grid association can get your shot.
I also link the KOS site, so they can check corps and individuals themselves.

We accept that people will use the neutral status to pick one of us out. When they have had their cheap little shot, they have closed a door on a great opportunity to a lot of fun and comradery

Thanks for the nice review mate. :) I know Arx, good guys.

Hope to see you around again.