Player Features and Ideas Discussion

where exactly are you thinking you could put a comma in that sentence that would make it not wrong

Folks like you are essentially the target of these changes. Here's to hoping you can stay in nullsec for all your production needs. :)

If you want to fix nullsec mining, you need to fix the one thing that makes nullsec mining worthless as an isk making activity.

Interceptors.

Stupidly fast, immune to bubbles, instantly know where you are when entering system, they no longer even need to scan, and even if you die you lose 30 mill as opposed to 240 mill for every hulk you blow. And your exhumer WILL blow, even skiffs are totally helpless against inties tackling you and waiting for thier friends on the other side of the gate/worm hole.
Also, not everyone has five alts to scout, and even if they did, you are reducing your income/character to a fifth - in other words the income from null mining would have to be over SIX times better than highsec to justify using one mack plus five cloaky scouts in null as opposed to six macks (or orca + five macks) in high.

That "issue" could be fixed with an increased delay on unloacking before all system anomalies are visible/warpable. Altho, that would reduce player interaction and make exploration a tad more tedious.

Ok, you caught me, I too am an alt of Querns.

Tsk, tsk... you are simply too naive to realize how truly skilled Querns is in the forum PVP game... lol.

No I'm CCP Fozzie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8h_v_our_Q

I'm in highsec. I see plenty of Skiffs and Procurers. No one messes with them. Overheating doesn't even become necessary for the most part as even a moderate tank makes you, in my experience, not worth the effort.

Your statement assumes that nobody in nullsec knows anything about highsec, and ignores the fact that most nullsec players both started in highsec, still have alts that live there, and continue most of the activity a highsec players does in nullsec.

Your statement breaks down when the people involved have experience in both highsec and nullsec production, logistics, and economics of scale.

Nor is restricting a persons ability to comment on things that don't happen directly in their space reasonable. There's really nothing in this game that can be said not to effect the other areas of space.

Let's take the ESS as an example.

Did it effect nullsec? Yes, directly through reducing our income at the source. So ofc we can discuss it.
Did it effect highsec/lowsec? Yes, through creating a LP source that devalued empire corp LP prices. So they too can discuss it.
Did it effect WH's? Yes, WH people love to steal from the ESS piggy banks. Since it effects them, they too can discuss it.

Highsec mining effects highsec. It effects lowsec. It effects nullsec. It even effects WH's by dictating supply.

Nullsec demand and mining dictates highsec ore prices. It effects lowsec and WH's through the mineral supply and the availability of targets in PvP zones.

Since everyone can talk about anything anywhere in the game since it's all interconnected, the only significant qualifiers are the understanding of how proposed changes effect the game.

So when you get people who openly state they have no experience or interest in anything besides mining rock and selling it to market, or who openly state that they consider everything else in the game combined less important than the tiny slice of their playstyle, or those that constantly trumpet false information as gospel truth, others step in a likely futile attempt to get them to understand the reasoning behind the changes.

I could only include four of the best examples due to silly quote count rules, but here's some jewels that best showcase those who look at the changes and explanations and decided weapons grade crazy and massive entitlement was the answer.





(*In response to a very detailed explanation about how deep nullsec would become empty and near worthless without changes*)




Do you really suggest we just say nothing to responses like these and through silence, endorse them?

Don't mind him, he's just sour that he lost a freighter with a station egg trying to gate it into null from highsec.