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Dev blog: Ship Customization: Time to Show Some SKIN

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#81 - 2015-04-21 19:25:52 UTC
Odin Shadow wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
Odin Shadow wrote:
can we transfer aur's between characters yet?



Aur is not pulled to the account, not your char. IIRC.

you can get tokens and trade them, but once redeemed i think thats it


im talking about the free 5500 aur's they gave us, can that be pooled so we don't have to top it up for the high end skins?

can that can be put into tokens and traded?



iirc it was pooled per account. no that can;t be traded that i have seen, no it can;t be convereted to tokens that i ahve seen

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Catherine Laartii
Doomheim
#82 - 2015-04-21 19:26:07 UTC
KHANID ALL THE THINGS

AAALLLLL THE THIIIIINNGSSS
TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#83 - 2015-04-21 19:28:16 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Odin Shadow wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
Odin Shadow wrote:
can we transfer aur's between characters yet?



Aur is not pulled to the account, not your char. IIRC.

you can get tokens and trade them, but once redeemed i think thats it


im talking about the free 5500 aur's they gave us, can that be pooled so we don't have to top it up for the high end skins?

can that can be put into tokens and traded?



iirc it was pooled per account. no that can;t be traded that i have seen, no it can;t be convereted to tokens that i ahve seen


yes it can. go to store, get tokens, then the tokens are items you can do whatever you want with.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#84 - 2015-04-21 19:29:47 UTC
TrouserDeagle wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
Odin Shadow wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
Odin Shadow wrote:
can we transfer aur's between characters yet?



Aur is not pulled to the account, not your char. IIRC.

you can get tokens and trade them, but once redeemed i think thats it


im talking about the free 5500 aur's they gave us, can that be pooled so we don't have to top it up for the high end skins?

can that can be put into tokens and traded?



iirc it was pooled per account. no that can;t be traded that i have seen, no it can;t be convereted to tokens that i ahve seen


yes it can. go to store, get tokens, then the tokens are items you can do whatever you want with.



really? oo i did not know that... mmm

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Agent Unknown
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#85 - 2015-04-21 19:30:01 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Kotori wrote:
Querns wrote:
Kotori wrote:
Looks like there was some insider knowledge on this one!

Blog released at 17:00 today.
Huge Spike in purchases on the 20th April.

Bit of a mismatch there.

I hope there is to be an investigation as to who is abusing their powers?

Speculation is one thing, but a mass purchase the day before a dev blog announcing that availability will be stopped immediately....

Um, the SKIN program has been talked about for months. Literal months.


I do not dispute that one bit. But the sudden "Re-Interest" in purchasing all the skins. The day before an official announcement like this, is at the very least... *Slightly* Suspicious


I went out and bought all the ones I didn't have last week. Am I also suspicious?


Considering the SKIN system has been on Singularity for weeks now, I don't think it's insider trading ...much like how the Entosis Link materials are already known based on publicly-available information.

I personally don't really care about the SKINs...my Quafe set will probably fetch decent ISK once the conversion is made.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#86 - 2015-04-21 19:36:06 UTC
Nice system. Though unless I'm missing something, this seems to cut player to player trading/selling of skinned ships completely out of possibility which is a bit of a shame/loss to the economy.

I'm right behind you
Alexis Nightwish
#87 - 2015-04-21 19:40:23 UTC
Dev Blog wrote:
Q) Does the skin for a T1 ship also apply to any T2 variants?
A) Unless the SKIN item specifically mentions it affects multiple ships it will only affect the ship hulls stated on the item. Therefore a Rifter Nefantar SKIN (Permanent) item will only work on a Rifter, not a Jaguar or Wolf for instance.


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Verskon Qaual
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#88 - 2015-04-21 19:40:55 UTC
The ship skinning emulators have been in the wild for a while now, and you have demonstrated a number of cool prototype skinning interfaces, but, for the skins as they are now, prices are 2-4x what they should be.

The old bpc prices amounted to less then 200 Million ISK in AUR for capital skins, and rather less for small hulls. If you want to make this a 'skin collector' game like WoD was to be, you need to lower prices.

From dev blogs, leaks, 3rd party sites and Fan Fest, we know you are generally simply applying 'faction primary & secondary color to ship splotch' system. This is not something that takes a great deal of time for artists to produce.

I've screenshot the Sebiestor Nyx, Leviathan and Sarum Nyx skins that look really good (and much better then the quafe or interbus skins for the Nyx) but are not presently being released. http://imgur.com/a/ZOtLi

If the lore has this technology being stolen from the Serpentis, there should be no reason to keep 'racial lines' pure.

Give us the option to purchase the skin class we want or customize it ourselves, then, you might set these prices to that of a plex or more.
Castimirr
Imperial Dreams
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#89 - 2015-04-21 19:44:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Castimirr
I'm not very happy that the Serpentis skins I've been collecting and flying are going to go *POOF* in 30 days. That really really sucks. That really kills the value to them since I would constantly have to be rebuying them. If I lose the ship, that's my fault, but just expiring...... that is seriously stupid.I don't know the best way to prevent market saturation, but this is not it. Why bother buying it at all then? This seems like it would kill the market for the dropped skins. I could see something where temporary skins get destroyed when the ship does (If you couldn't switch them in combat) but just expiring, especially that fast, is really lame.

*EDIT* Also, it takes the fun out of killing something shiny if the shiny isn't actually killed.

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Perkone
Caldari State
#90 - 2015-04-21 19:45:37 UTC
I can recommend one extra condition in which you should NOT be permitted to change your ship skin on-the-fly: TIDI

Because you know there will be fleets of ships that will do this intentionally in an effort to manufacture more TIDI.
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#91 - 2015-04-21 19:48:42 UTC
Querns wrote:
I gotta say, this is the healthiest possible option for CCP to take to introduce a system similar to "microtransactions" and provide an additional revenue stream. You guys took the time to do it right, and did it in a way that does not negatively affect core gameplay at all, while keeping it firmly in the realm of Spaceships in Space. It's a technical beauty and ethically sound.

I couldn't be more proud of CCP right now.

Agreed, even though I ripped off T2 capital rigs just to be able to skin my Naglfar as it is now and that's becoming completely unnecessary.
Solecist Project
#92 - 2015-04-21 19:51:09 UTC
Authority told me to post here instead ......

... so I would like to say WOOOHOOO SHIPSPINNING !!! :D


(it's okay that it doesn't behave like in station. :p)


Also I believe you have a clear winner there!
Doing it right!

Early buyers are covered.
Free previews.
Lootable skins.
Lots of places to actually buy them.


Brilliant!

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#93 - 2015-04-21 19:54:59 UTC
When is this stuff going to appear in LP stores? I throw hundreds of Euros down your throat every year and then I still have to pay another multi-year subscription worth of Euros to get access to these skins?

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Radgette
EVE Irn Bru Distribution
#94 - 2015-04-21 19:59:07 UTC
Ok so the minmatar are having problems with skins.

there is a seemingly ( to me ) simple way to fix this.

Turn the Thukker temp skins into angel ( like they always should have been )

and give us thukker skins for our other ships ( it's one of the better looking minnie colour schemes )

also i don't see why you can't add Brutor/boundless skins to ships whose t2 variant uses thukker and add thukker for those whose t2 variant is boundless/brutor.

Also of course the ultra sexy looking Sebiestor/Core Complexions black skin would sell amazing i would think.


tbh though i concur with many people here in thinking the prices are far too high for some of these.
Odin Shadow
ZC Industries
Dark Stripes
#95 - 2015-04-21 19:59:58 UTC
DaReaper wrote:



Aur is not pulled to the account, not your char. IIRC.

you can get tokens and trade them, but once redeemed i think thats it


im talking about the free 5500 aur's they gave us, can that be pooled so we don't have to top it up for the high end skins?

can that can be put into tokens and traded?
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how do I buy these tokens? (im not seeing them in the store)
Dangeresque Too
Pistols for Pandas
#96 - 2015-04-21 20:00:13 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
When is this stuff going to appear in LP stores? I throw hundreds of Euros down your throat every year and then I still have to pay another multi-year subscription worth of Euros to get access to these skins?
Yeah, there is Eve Online (subscription based), and Pretty Special Space Paint Online (also separately subscription based).
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#97 - 2015-04-21 20:04:45 UTC
I'm not convinced on the value retention for the dropped skins tbh, as it stands there value is minimal at best. Not to mention, when making skins available for purchase via Aurum, they will have an ISK price tag that should (theoretically) fluctuate more with PLEX prices than the actual demand of the item, thus retaining there resale value anyway.

Needless to say a little disappointed at the inability to purchase pirate skins on launch and from what it sounds, will be unlikely to be introduced in the future (for purchase) anyway. Other than that little complaint, I'd say it looks good overall.
Squizz Caphinator
The Wormhole Police
#98 - 2015-04-21 20:05:16 UTC
Quote:

Q) Will the SKINs I have active be exposed in the API?
A) Yes, we plan on making that information available from the API, however it will not be available on launch.


Does this apply to CREST as well?

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Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#99 - 2015-04-21 20:05:41 UTC
Odin Shadow wrote:
DaReaper wrote:


im talking about the free 5500 aur's they gave us, can that be pooled so we don't have to top it up for the high end skins?

can that can be put into tokens and traded?






how do I buy these tokens? (im not seeing them in the store)

They're not available anymore.
They were offered when AUR was tied to character's wallets, instead of accounts, so when buying a specific amount of AUR you'd get a token for that amount that you could redeem in-game for that amount. Alternatively you could sell them on the market. Now that AUR is tied to accounts there's no need to do this anymore.
Black Romero
Aviation Professionals for EVE
#100 - 2015-04-21 20:06:27 UTC
I had to log in and just say CONGRATS to CCP. (judging by the amount of blue posts in here too - apparently all of you are as psyched as I am about this too.) This has been a long time coming.

You guys really nailed this one on the head. Thank you for listening to all the feedback. Thank you for taking the time to develop a great system that is fair, and thanks for taking the time to write the scripts and think out the conversion process. I would go so far as to call this the preeminent micro-transaction system in MMORPGs.

I really liked the surprise of limited time skins. (Try b4 you buy, value etc....all great points and welcome.)

The part at the end about previous skins was a nice little carrot too. I bought as much as I could with my Aurum to support this system. I have long been an advocate of being able to pay CCP Artists in effect for blinging up "my" game and this is just an awesome system.

Too many +1s to list.

I literally have no complaints.

THANK YOU!!!