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Rep level question

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Rexxel Janda
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-04-19 22:45:59 UTC
Hi

Wondered if anyone could answer something for me... is there any point in raising rep past "excellent"? example, I have Core Complexion at 7.115 / excellent. Is there any reason to get higher?

Thank you.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2 - 2015-04-19 23:04:22 UTC
do you mean standing?
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#3 - 2015-04-19 23:04:32 UTC
Yep. The descriptive title basically means nothing - for most purposes it is only the number that matters.

Going still higher will get you reduced market broker fees in stations owned by that corp (no limit), will unlock jump clones at those stations (at 8.0) and a few other things.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#4 - 2015-04-19 23:10:29 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
In EVE we call "reputation" another term; Corporate / Faction Standings

And yes. There are some good reasons.


Higher standings can grant you...

- lower tax rates and fees when buying / selling stuff on the market
- lower building / industry fees
- the ability to create Jump Clones (when you reach +8.0 standings)


Also be aware that your standings with other players can only be set by the players themselves (see: manually). This is important if you venture out in null-sec as docking rights for player-owned stations is dependent on it.
Generally speaking, the corporation / alliance that owns the station has to set you "blue" (see: +5 or higher) before you can dock in a player station.

On the other hand... NPC-owned stations will NEVER deny you docking no matter how abysmal your standings are (exception: if you are part of Faction Warfare and the "enemy" owns the low-sec system).
NOTE: don't ask for a lore reason why this is. It's a gameplay decision. The DEVs don't really want to lock people out of huge chunks of the NPC space and stifle overall gameplay.
Rexxel Janda
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-04-19 23:13:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Rexxel Janda
Standings, yes, I meant that sorry. I have no idea why I typed rep. I even have the standing window open. A few rums and it's past midnight is my only excuse! Specifically I'm refering to npc corps and factions.

Thanks for the info. I guess "at least" 8 for jumpclones is good to aim for then.

thanks
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-04-19 23:25:49 UTC
there is a corp that has 8.0+ standing that recruit anyone so they can make jump clones and then boots you.

Only real reason to get high standings is to get lower tax at trade hubs.
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#7 - 2015-04-20 03:08:05 UTC
What are you doing, exactly?

In the context of general PvE, there's not any reason to stress about getting anywhere north of +5.0 modified standing, where you get L4 missions and epic arc missions, other than potentially grabbing jump clones (+8.0 standing in a station with a medical bay).

As others have mentioned, if you're doing low-margin manufacturing and trading it helps in a very small way with reducing costs, which can be significant if you're working with really large volumes or small ROIs. There are also some standing requirements with overall factions (Gallente, Amarr, etc) if you want to set up a starbase in empire territory. If you're just selling/reprocessing stuff because you have extra crap from missions, though? Nah, don't worry about it.
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#8 - 2015-04-20 05:13:15 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:
There are also some standing requirements with overall factions (Gallente, Amarr, etc) if you want to set up a starbase in empire territory.

Those have been removed with the industry revamp.

Remove standings and insurance.

Rexxel Janda
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-04-20 07:18:15 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:
What are you doing, exactly?


mostly amusing myself in a game I don't quite get.

i mission, i mine, i use isis as a guide to what to train. i tend to be solo so it's good to set a goal, be that a mastery level or a standing.
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#10 - 2015-04-20 07:29:55 UTC
Besides the benefits mentioned above keep in mind that aquiring standing gets progressively harder the higher your standing already is. Additional standings gain is a percentage that is calculated from the difference between your current standing and the maximum of 10. In your case - assuming that 7,115 is your base standing and not modified by skills - the difference is 2,885, so a standing gain of 10% would be only 0,2885.
Standing loss works the same but in reverse: the difference between your current standing and -10. In your case 17,115.

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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#11 - 2015-04-20 08:44:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Lost Greybeard
Rexxel Janda wrote:
i mission, i mine, i use isis as a guide to what to train. i tend to be solo so it's good to set a goal, be that a mastery level or a standing.


Firstly, 5.0 is all you probably will ever care about, then, and only for corps you want to run L4s.

Secondly, better goals for new players are ships and other gear, e.g. "drones are cool, gallente ships are cool" == train a Vexor, train a dominix, train drone skillz.

Support stuff from mining would be scanning plus the actual mining ships, plus maybe some of the cargo ships.
Rexxel Janda
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-04-20 09:47:04 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:
Rexxel Janda wrote:
i mission, i mine, i use isis as a guide to what to train. i tend to be solo so it's good to set a goal, be that a mastery level or a standing.


Firstly, 5.0 is all you probably will ever care about, then, and only for corps you want to run L4s.

Secondly, better goals for new players are ships and other gear, e.g. "drones are cool, gallente ships are cool" == train a Vexor, train a dominix, train drone skillz.

Support stuff from mining would be scanning plus the actual mining ships, plus maybe some of the cargo ships.


I've pretty much reached my two goals of that kind: just hit l3 mastery in hurricane and retriever with all required skills. Not much by most standards, but it was a goal. Plan on working to the higher version of the hurricane and making both as good as I can, while upping my refining and general mining skills.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2015-04-20 10:13:16 UTC
I recommend you go find yourself a corp to join.

Eve gets considerably better when played with others.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2015-04-20 11:30:55 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
I recommend you go find yourself a corp to join.

Eve gets considerably better when played with others.


I second this, even if all you do is chat on comms while you do your own thing.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2015-04-20 13:35:51 UTC
I agree with others that have said eve needs to be played with others. You will get bored quick if you don't start fleeting up and doing stuff in groups. And once you do you'll never run out of things to do. Most of the content in eve is player created so fleet up and either go out there and be part of it or go out there and created it.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-04-20 14:27:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
If you are not sure yet about a corp and PvP ... check out the various NPSI chat channels Spectre Fleet, RvB Ganked, Redemption Road, Bombers Bar and their mailing lists (for fitting examples and announcement) with nice/crazy people for mostly newbie-friendly, casual PvP without obligations and politics. Also you may visit Syndicate or Providence to check out null sec without being part of a power block. There is so much to do and having fun in EvE Big smile

... and don't forget the 2 goals, get killed in lower sec space and return the favor and accomplish your first PvP kill. Pirate

EDIT: Just saw you have already completed one of the goals, but you should repeat your experience with a PvP ship. Blink

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Oraac Ensor
#17 - 2015-04-20 16:54:34 UTC
Darek Castigatus wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
I recommend you go find yourself a corp to join.

Eve gets considerably better when played with others.


I second this, even if all you do is chat on comms while you do your own thing.

OP, don't worry if the mere thought of that makes you cringe - you're not alone.
Vazik Tyros
The Tyros Clan
#18 - 2015-04-21 21:10:59 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
In EVE we call "reputation" another term; Corporate / Faction Standings

And yes. There are some good reasons.


Higher standings can grant you...

- lower tax rates and fees when buying / selling stuff on the market
- lower building / industry fees
- the ability to create Jump Clones (when you reach +8.0 standings)


Also be aware that your standings with other players can only be set by the players themselves (see: manually). This is important if you venture out in null-sec as docking rights for player-owned stations is dependent on it.
Generally speaking, the corporation / alliance that owns the station has to set you "blue" (see: +5 or higher) before you can dock in a player station.

On the other hand... NPC-owned stations will NEVER deny you docking no matter how abysmal your standings are (exception: if you are part of Faction Warfare and the "enemy" owns the low-sec system).
NOTE: don't ask for a lore reason why this is. It's a gameplay decision. The DEVs don't really want to lock people out of huge chunks of the NPC space and stifle overall gameplay.


By lower building/industry fees, are you referring to the Manufacturing costs at Empire Stations? I thought the cost of Manufacturing goods was now calculated based on the number of people Manufacturing at that particular station.
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-04-22 09:04:45 UTC
Rexxel Janda wrote:
Hi

Wondered if anyone could answer something for me... is there any point in raising rep past "excellent"? example, I have Core Complexion at 7.115 / excellent. Is there any reason to get higher?

Thank you.


Apart from everything already answered, you also get a one-time-only free BPC run of a faction frigate, cruiser and battleship once you reach 9.0-9.9 standing.

Well, maybe not free, i think you might have to exchange some tags or something to get them, but theyre practically free for the things youre getting.