Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Not when you have 25 different systems coming out of RF simultaneously/+-1-2 hours apart.

I liek to see the world burn. ~(˘▾˘~)

Well here's hoping the devs still monitor this thread lol


I think ship choice should matter in the sov system. Fozzie doesn't want to limit entosis links to a particular shiptype, so lets roll with that but make a change that would still add benefit to choosing different fleet types so it's not just a race to the bottom cheapest least risky option (or base your choices on the FOTM like ishtars or T3 cruisers have been).


Add in a penalty to all entosis modules that mirrors the capital link. But add in a bonus that cancels out this penalty based on the structure size that the entosis link is being used on.

So:

Frigates/destroyers would have no penalty against small structures, but a penalty against M,L, and XL structures.
Capitals would have no penalty vs XL structures, but a penalty vs S,M,L structures.
Same for the remaining shiptypes.

This means that I can still assault an XL structure with a frigate, it would just take longer to do so.

I think this would bring a happy medium to allowing all shiptypes to be viable against all structures, but you'd get a benefit for choosing the right sized ship type against that structure which will add variation to soverignty and have all ships have value in the system.

Unless something changes an entire region can be flipped in 2 day and 40 minutes on each day.

So far Fozzie SOV is short sighted in what happens in one battle.
It also doesn't account for whole regions having timers.
It doesn't account for people being blocked out of systems and station camped.

Fozzie SOV will be too annoying to bother defending.

I think sov should be temporary and null sec alliances should be more nomadic. Getting stronger and moving farther out with less dependence on high sec. Most of sov null is empty except for the occasional jump freighter dropping off fuel and picking up moon goods. Moon materials should move Arround and not be static. I hope that ccp sov changes will work to Thant end. No matter what you do or how the sov works the large alliance will stay static in there regions and not move until you change the profit motive.

The stront use is a great idea, but since it uses so little it's just an annoyance and doesn't require any logistical thought or strategy. Even an interceptor's tiny cargo capacity can hold enough stront for thirty cycles.

Given the proposed stats and fitting requirements I see the T1 version only used on cruisers and up, and the T2 only BC and up due to the amount of PG required. Such a limitation does not have "the minimum possible effect on what ships and tactics players can choose."

Have you considered creating three sizes of Elinks with T1 and T2 variants of each?

For example:
Small T1 Entosis Link:

Requires Infomorph Psychology 1

+250,000 mass when online

5 Minute Cycle Time, 10km range

1 PWG, 1 CPU

50 Capacitor per cycle

Consumes 2 Stront per cycle

Small T2 Entosis Link:

Requires Infomorph Psychology 3

+250,000 mass when online

2 Minute Cycle Time, 15km range

5 PWG, 2 CPU

50 Capacitor per cycle

Consumes 2 Stront per cycle

Medium T1 Entosis Link:

Requires Infomorph Psychology 2

+2,500,000 mass when online

5 Minute Cycle Time, 30km range

10 PWG, 5 CPU

200 Capacitor per cycle

Consumes 5 Stront per cycle

Medium T2 Entosis Link:

Requires Infomorph Psychology 4

+2,500,000 mass when online

2 Minute Cycle Time, 50km range

15 PWG, 10 CPU

200 Capacitor per cycle

Consumes 5 Stront per cycle

Large T1 Entosis Link:

Requires Infomorph Psychology 3

+10,000,000 mass when online

5 Minute Cycle Time, 100km range

100 PWG, 10 CPU

500 Capacitor per cycle

Consumes 10 Stront per cycle

Large T2 Entosis Link:

Requires Infomorph Psychology 5

+10,000,000 mass when online

2 Minute Cycle Time, 250km range

150 PWG, 15 CPU

500 Capacitor per cycle

Consumes 10 Stront per cycle

How do you think only cruisers will only use T1 version?

Cycle time is irrelevant to capture time. All those skills would do is increase the capacitor and fuel cost of running the link.

dont think you can eject while its running. I don't remember a specific response to it, but the intention is it is a locked state of vulnerability.

Check the structure dev-blog, specifically the images of the progression trees: For example this one

The small and medium structures still run on damage based mechanics, and mediums use the old reinforcement mechanics (probably because their HP pool is fairly reasonable and their cost is low). Only Large and Extra-Large sizes use the new Entosis mechanics.



If you let an entire region be reinforced then how is that different from right now? You have a lot of timers to deal with, so you'd better go deal with them. If you can't, then you lose. If someone camps you out of the region you need to defend, you also lose. Those are valid tactics so I'm not sure what the problem here is.

Also I'm not seeing any reasoning behind this new system being more annoying than "here's a structure with about a billion EHP, kill it". Unless your goal is a sov system that lets you catch up on your Netflix queue...



This seems massively unrealistic. Sov is populated because players can create a modicum of security to offset the risks. The story of Sov in Eve is one of players building something up and other players coming to try and tear it down. What you're talking about is like someone saying "well, it was hard to establish this colony in these harsh lands, but the crops are coming in nicely! Time to throw it all away and move on again!"

Also there are areas of Null that are less dependant on High Sec, but they're generally considered the worse places to live since having a high-sec life-line is very valuable.



You may want to pay a bit more attention instead of trolling everyone. This was answered in the last thread in a dev post. If you lose lock your progress stops and you need to run a new warm-up cycle, but the module does't stop cycling and you still have all of the penalties it gives, meaning no remote assistance and no warping out.



Keep in mind that you need a new warm-up cycle every time you shut off your link or otherwise lose connection.

I didn't see anyone mention this one by page 13 so I figured I would ask it:

How will TiDi affect the timer for running Entosis units? Will filling a system with ships/drones give a defender or aggressor a sudden advantage to get more help on its way to the system under siege by creating a TiDi situation specifically to slow the timers if they get knocked off grid by foes, allowing them more time to regroup?