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Special POS vacation fuel
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-04-07 15:41:46 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Anhenka wrote:
I for one welcome the opportunity to abuse this by intentionally using month long invincible towers for staging in hostile areas. And I don't even need to pay for the normal fuel cost. How grand.
I think most of us are hoping to avoid proposing something that would allow such tactics. That would create a system in which nullsec sovereignty became a game of who got there first, much like industry slots before the industry revamp that came with Phoebe. That is why it is imperative we brainstorm ideas to prevent this proposal from being used that way.


Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
And what would happen to the anchor point? If it gets reused by someone else where would your tower 'pop-up' again? If it doesn't become free for anyone else how would an aggressor then clear your tower from the spot for themselves?

If you need it safe you really should have to take it out of space and store it in station. This is an effort/reward case I think.
I think maybe what we really need is a button to stow a POS, including all modules, as an item that can be put in a hangar and later assembled on-site at which point it will automatically re-assume its previous configuration. Because the only real issue here is the difficulty in taking it down and putting it back up. If you only had to go through it initially when you set it up, that would make it much easier to go on vacation.


So you mean a POS layout template that you can save and auto-anchor when you come back I guess. Would have been handy except the new structure proposal is for single stations using modules instead, this issue would be pretty much resolved under the new system. Better for the developers to focus on those changes rather than divert energy into a stop-gap measure.

ED: this is assuming you can even un-anchor the new structures.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-04-07 15:42:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Ix Method wrote:
Help us help you?

It's a lot of effort taking a POS down and putting it back up. It'd be nice if it was easier.

What if...that thing I said.

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James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#23 - 2015-04-07 15:42:22 UTC
I can see no upside to such a thing. Eve is a game which is supposed to be about risk vs. reward, making strategic decisions and having very few truly safe spaces. I'm strongly against anything which lets you put up a month long bubble of invincibility, pull the tower down, replace with a tower that doesn't have such a cool down on it, and just perma-stage out of an immune bubble with no consequences.

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Ix Method
Doomheim
#24 - 2015-04-07 15:44:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Ix Method
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
It's a lot of effort taking a POS down and putting it back up. It'd be nice if it was easier.

What if...that thing I said.

I would hope to god the new structures will make this untrue, that seemed like half the point of doing it tbh.

Presuming that to be so, why do we still need magic, weirdly safe holiday modes or whatever?

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James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#25 - 2015-04-07 15:44:52 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Ix Method wrote:
Help us help you?

It's a lot of effort taking a POS down and putting it back up.

What if...that thing I said.

It's a couple hours if you get picky about where and how the guns/exterior mods are arranged and the interior needs to be conformal to some optimized layout. Waaa.

Now, reaction and drug POSes, those are a pain, but still not worth the downside of all the potential abuse of such a mechanic to preserve

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2015-04-07 16:32:48 UTC
Hopelesshobo wrote:
I would be down for simply having a POS have a low power mode, where it offlines all of it's fitting capabilities in exchange for a greatly reduced consumption of the fuel blocks we currently have. Leave the stront timers alone though, if you decide to go offline, and you choose not to tear it down, that is your issue.


You mean how they used to work before fuel blocks?

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Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#27 - 2015-04-07 17:35:26 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Hopelesshobo wrote:
I would be down for simply having a POS have a low power mode, where it offlines all of it's fitting capabilities in exchange for a greatly reduced consumption of the fuel blocks we currently have. Leave the stront timers alone though, if you decide to go offline, and you choose not to tear it down, that is your issue.


You mean how they used to work before fuel blocks?


No idea, by the time I started screwing with POSes, fuel blocks were already in the game.....those poor POS managers before that...

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#28 - 2015-04-07 21:11:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:


A special fuel block that allows a POS to run for a nice long period, say, a month without needing to be re-fueled.




you understand this is already how long a POS can last w/o fuel right? faction ones can last longer



also isn't this how they are going to do structures from now on?


depending on what and how many services are being used you will use less fuel if nothing is in use it takes no fuel

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The Corporate Raiders
#29 - 2015-04-07 21:14:13 UTC
Vactaion mode is the inside of a DST...

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#30 - 2015-04-14 01:10:20 UTC
LOL. Scrub idea from a scrub with scrubby scrub scrub problems.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2015-04-14 15:17:36 UTC
Posting to confirm OP is a scrub.

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