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That's not Jove space. That's UUA-F4 region, and we don't know who lives/lived there or when, or who built those gates, but it's not Jove.

Jove space is the regions of A821-A and J7HZ-F.



I don't know if there's an in character explanation, but those constellations are where the Devs live.
Not sure why they need stargates though. They have magic sufficiently advanced technology that lets them move themselves wherever they want to.

Presumably because of Carolines star.

One would assume a cataclysm could have that affect.

I am more interested in what happened in actual Jove space, since last we knew that WAS occupied.

Has anyone thought about the possibility of a Drifter VS Jove war? Given the fact that the Drifters are tearing down the Jove listening towers as well as their appearance was after Caroline's Star appearance. So is it possible that the Drifters have shut down the Jovian gate network to help them isolate what remaining Jove there are in order to make eradicating them an easier task?

On the topic of Caroline's Star my personal guess is that it may have been a Jovian/Drifter super weapon much like our own doomsday devices which could have released enough energy to destroy the system that it was fired in (much like the eve gate did to the New Eden system). I imagine that weapon of that magnitude would release the required energy needed for Caroline's Star to be visible from all systems in the cluster.

We have already seen the effects of Drifter weaponry that they have mounted on their battleship class ships so what type of weaponry would they have on lets say one of their dreadnought class ships?

Looking back at the Amarr/Jove war we have record of what a jove mothership is capable of so i can imagine that the Drifters have the same type of weaponry if not more powerful.

On the topic of the Jovian disease i believe it is likely that if the Jove and Drifters are at war we may very shortly see the extinction of the Jove. I say this because in the centuries that have past sense the Jove/Sleeper war the Jovian numbers have dwindled greatly which could make it easy for the Drifters who are using our corpses to (theoretically) rebuild their bodies to wipe them from the face of eve.

The real question is if the Jove will call on us to help them and or once the Drifters are done with the Jove if they will point their sights on us.

Thanks to Trii Seo there is a map showing concentrations of Observatories, and it seems the largest is basicly where the Jove First and Second Empires had their home system. The Heaven Constellation and surrounding regions. So it's very likely the Observatories were something built during those days, which might even explain why the architecture of them seems a little of from what we know of more recent Jove ships and structures.

That said, that doesn't mean the Jove actually require a gate network to travel from system to system. It's possible they just maintained one because it is easier, or even just to make the rest of the cluster believe they were as dependant on it as the other Empires. I do believe Jove ships were seen outside of Jove space in a few isolated cases after they had severed their gate connections to the rest of New Eden. And while it's possible these were ferried back and forth by one of their Motherships it could just as easily be that they are capable crossing such distances using different methods.

Damn, so they really must be ancient then. I wonder if that lends weight to the theory that the Seeker/Drifter 'excision' of tech from the observatories is not for themselves, since their own tech should far outstrip that of First or Second Empire Jove, but rather to keep anyone else from having access to it.

Thanks for the reply.

Other than the DD, the Drifters do similar DPS to a player Battleship. And have less tank.
The fact people think that's 'advanced' shows how weak sauce most NPC's are.

Maybe, maybe not. After the fall of the First and Second Empires there were always significant losses. It could be that the Antikythera elements are essentially that, lost knowledge. Something they used in building the Observatories but after the fall the knowledge on how to build them was lost. So now the only way to get them and figure out how to rebuild them would be to get one of the originals.

Another reason could simply be resources. For all we know the Antikythera elements are made of something they don't have access to in w-space.

Or they might actually contain some sort of important data that the Observatories have been gathering for the past few centuries.

Based on what we saw in the "Emergent Threats" trailer, it seems to be that the "Drifters" are cybernetic constructs built by the Sleeper drones. That being the case, it would imply that we aren't really dealing with a "new" race or faction, but an escalation of force by the Sleeper drones that we Capsuleers have already been facing.

Think about it this way: the Sleepers set up an advanced and devoted Drone AI to protect them from external threats during their time in the Virtuality. Hundreds (thousands?) of years go by and suddenly that AI starts dealing with Capsuleer attacks on a constant basis. Additionally, they are apparently facing attacks by Sansha's Nation as well.

Although the Sleeper Drone tech is advanced, it is not as advanced as the most advanced military tech developed by the Jove / Sleepers during the time they cooperated. After all, nobody gives their Drones equally advanced weapons as they themselves possess... what if they went Rogue? No, their most advanced warships require an actual organic pod pilot to use. Under the incredible pressure of Capsuleer and Sansha attacks, the Sleeper Drone AI is at a major disadvantage. Operating within their original parameters, and with their standard tech, they aren't able to fulfill their primary objective of protecting their Sleeper creators.

So, the Drones adapt. Maybe they actually do go Rogue, only they're going Rogue while still protecting the Sleepers. They know of massive vaults of Jove military tech left to drift after the fall of previous Jove Empires, perhaps even the Third Empire has died off after the ravages of the Jovian Disease. These powerful warships are capable of countering their new enemies, but have no Drone compatible interface. Solution? Build a cybernetic Sleeper Drone from organic parts in order to interface with abandoned "Drifter" tech.

Circadian Sleepers and Drifters aren't just working together, they are different units of the same AI.