Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You apparently missed the actual point.

Getting a bit off topic but...
Are you suggesting that we make moon goo (which is a T2 resource primarily found in low/null only) available in wormhole?

Current setup is that T2 is low/null resources and t3 mats is wh resources.

If you are suggesting that moon goo mining be available in wh, then t3 mats should also be made available in low/null.

Otherwise, I am against moon mining in w-space. You can have drilling platforms, just not the moon mining side of things.

Is it just me, or does the market hub seem a bit too much "everything else rolled into one"?

Clones, repairs, insurance, agents, storage, character customization, offices. I kinda feel like repair should go in the assembly array and agents and offices in the administration hub, clones in the research lab. Doing this will break down the things you can do in a single station and require players to travel through space "what!" to do the things they require.

I got an idea that would help players have a passive income on the new structures.

Take the Drilling rig instead of setting it up just for personal use you can set it up for public use the player can set a use tax on all slots.

So if a player needs to compress ore or reprocess ore they can pay a tax to the owner of the platform either player, corp or alliance for using there facility. If I have a low enough tax more people will use my facilities more isk i make. Also this creates content in high sec as well with competition since if I someone competing with me they can wardec or hire mercs to wardec me to get rid of my platform. I can do the same.
On the drilling platform the person using the service can decide to pay taxes by either ore, minerals, or isk.

Also the same thing can be done with the trade hubs instead of npc tax there can be a player tax. Market people will go to where the items are but they will also look for the best profit for trading if I have lower taxes for trading then npc stations i might make a lot of players use my structure to make more profit. All the while I make profit off of the taxes of the market transactions.

The taxes can be added to the assemble and research structures as well.

I would like to see this as a chance to revise the moon mining mechanic from a setup once, touch never, print ISK mechanic to a PI-like mechanic, requiring some pilot to log in every few days to manage the mining operation.

If this were the case, I'd also be OK with this being a way to passively generate some mining materials as well (automining) at a rate much slower than normal mining operations, and limited to mining one asteroid at a time, so you only get one type of ore. (IE you have to select a veldspar rock to mine, and the result of mining a veldspar rock for 24 hours would be like 50% of what it would have been if you had mined that rock directly.)

Hello CCP,
you said nothing in ur post and everyone says what he expect from the few informations. its very funny.

i will do that too!


Market Hubs
- focus on trade
- office
- player to player cloning service
- ship insurance
- character customization services

Rents, rents, rents and more rents.

Drilling Platforms
- focus on resource harvesting
- mainly with reprocessing
- moon harvesting
- reactions
- mining
- gas harvesting
- or new harvesting mechanics.

I dont like the "platform" in the name.

reprocessing, reactions dont need a riod be at. but ok.
if we get drilling platforms my next question is; can we pick them up again?
there is a totaly diffrent between a temporary material income and an income like our moon harvesting at the moment.

moon harvesting should be reworked that we have to scan them to see how much and which material is in and after that the moon gets nothing worth. a few months later we can harvest it again with totaly diffrent materials in it.
eve is a sandbox so everything static should be eliminated. explorers have to explore moons and not to google them.
so the games becomes more dynamic and the big alliance can still have them, they just need to organize moon-scanner-fleets

mining. mining should be a seprate product of moon harvesting. moons could become minerals too.

otherwise a roid drilling platform that spawns harvestable roids like u said before. sounds good. it should be control able. in high sec i dont like to spent money for that and other ppl mine my spawnd roids

gas harvesting. again a possible side-product of moon harvesting.
ok.. moon harvesting isnt realy needed. we can change that to - BIG ROID Mining. there is no realy diffrence.

So i think there is only 1 thing

a roid with diffrent size and moon should be the biggst one. (moons also get temporary materials, cus the are static) and after we put a drilling platform on a "roid" it spawns roids, gas and collect moon materials. maybe gas and mining materials too. ur choice.

I like the idea of the harvesting platforms as i think it will mean more low/null mining is completed if it can be done in a "AFK" style however im wondering if CCP has thought about the loss of revenue this may cause them.

A couple of days ago i was roaming null and came across a 35 man mining gang. now i'm pretty sure this was a botter though i can do nothing to prove that. But either way this is 35 accounts subbed to mine minerals, if we can do it automatically via platforms i think there would be a large reduction in these mass groups and this would then affect CCP's income.


The Fitting window would be interesting for some of these structures aswell, surely you cannot have everything on them, which means people will have to make choices just like they do on current ships.

Also have CCP given thought as to how these structures will be able to be placed in proximity to each other?
for example the 2 mentioned structures here would be nice if they can be anchored together or near each other due to their relation. But also because grouping a small number of structures together allows for the defensive systems to assist each other.

I like the idea of the drilling platform attracting bigger rocks to itself and then being able to break them up. However I don't think the breaking should be passive. I think you should have to log in and tell it to start breaking asteroids.


I like the idea of changing moon mining with this to a more active role. Make moon mining available in all sec status.

To make null sec or low sec moons more coveted make them have more materials. Maybe have the moons have lots of different materials instead of 1 or 2. But make the rarer materials harder to get or take longer . Say a high sec moon has hafnium it would harvest at 1/4 the speed of a null sec moon. so if you need 100 units an hour to to your reaction it takes you 4 hours to get enough. Something like atmospheric gasses you would get a 50 and hour maybe in null you would get 200 an hour. Also multiple platforms around moons and have it mine for so many hours then stop mining. Each moon only gives out so many units of one material per hour if 2 miners are mining the same thing they each get half. Because you might make more isk mining a less rare material and getting more per hour then mining a rare material and sharing the volume with the other people also be able to see who is mining the material maybe but looking at platforms or gas clouds so you can deal with the situation.
The concept of PI is you can see other people colonies and kind of guess what they are mining I think moon mining should be the same.

Any process can contribute to the gas cloud around the platform id doesn't matter if its moon mining, rock busting, or material reprocessing. Maybe the different process contributes different gasses.

any further word from ccp about these changes?


nope?

oh well im not surprised.

Love the idea of drilling platform slowly create a new private mini asteroid belt near the structure, or influence the spawning rate of harvesting anomalies in the system. Just let it be useable in highsec also. Which mins are in the roids/anoms would depend on security level of the system.