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Advancement in EVE Universe and long term corp strategies.

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NaiMor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-01-28 21:10:54 UTC
How is it possible for a new corp based in High sec to develop the infrastructure that is needed to gain a sov place in Null Sec?

It is true that joining a Nul Sec corp is one way to get into null sec, but then that is not the same as having and building up a corp from the begining.

It is an impossible task to develop a corp in high sec with ambitions to gain a sov space in null sec. The development needed to form a corp in that direction is stalled because of the low isk making capability that is provided in high sec. It is impossible to make items in high sec for sale on the market when competing against null sec productions. Nul sec has every advantage where high sec has none and high sec production is further stalled by the drop in mining output and reprocessing and manufacturing every time a new EVE upgrade becomes available. Reprocessing used to produce around 80% now, at best it is 68% in high sec.

A corp in high sec is pointless; it does not provide any advantages over and above a few guys in a fleet.

I would like to build up my corp and attack null sec. But the game structure does not allow for this.

An Alliance is a group of corporations joining together to form a stronger group. So why does an Alliance have Sov space? They shouldn't. Only Corps should have Sov space.

What do you people think about this?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#2 - 2015-01-28 23:30:40 UTC
I think you are in the wrong forum? And probably want corps and alliances.
Also check your numbers.
Araikas Rhal
Hair-Trigger
#3 - 2015-02-01 19:38:09 UTC
This is most assuredly on the wrong forum, but anyway.
You have many avenues of income in highsec that would make more then enough ISK to fund a corporation wanting to spread into null.
Incursions, DeDs, WH raiding, the list goes on. If your trying to compete with the null blocs on production with your solo corp you are simply delusional. Your not even looking at a ISK making problem it is a numbers problem. You wont ever have enough pilots to "Fight" null sec. They got there by making alliances and coalitions, and working with the larger (or other large) groups.

As for the game mechanics not allowing you to spread to null, again, wrong. It is pipelined for you to go to null.
Start in HS, get some people playing together, set a finacial goal, and keep recruiting. Start operation in low sec, more ISK for combat sites and mining. If you cant survive in low sec, re-evaluate your strategy and try again. From low hit up NPC Null sec. It does no good to try and take Sov if your pilots dont know how to fight and grow in the null sec environment and game mechanics.
If you do well in null you will see another increase in profits, more valuable ores, higher ISK potential in combat sites. Again, if you cant cut it here, withdraw and rethink your game plan. After that pick a nice soft entry null group to hit. Never a better time then now after the force projection changes.

If you think im wrong, and that it cant be done, then please inform the BRAVE alliance that they cant hold thier Sov anymore.
They started in HS/LS as noobs and are now one of the largest groups in game. Did they break physics?

I played other games in my past life. I must have done something wrong to be re-incarnated as an Eve player.

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#4 - 2015-02-01 23:26:59 UTC
Brave didn't get there on their own, they got protection and support from some of the big null groups to do so, just as a note.
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
#5 - 2015-02-01 23:44:01 UTC
Which is needed for every group going Null, diplomacy is a major part of the nullsec dynamic.

The Provi bloc is a good example of this. By their own, they would have been crushed already by any of the big blocs. but thanks to their diplomacy (and tons of stations, meaning the members of the big nullsec alliances aren't keen to perform Grind Wars & Timer Wars) they can keep it under their own guidance.
The one time Provi did take a clear stance in the nullsec politics, they got crushed hard, hence they avoid such situation these days.

That said, Brave is indeed a good example of a group moving in null & taking sov. They made sure that they had some powerful backing before they moved in through diplomacy. It's also one of the reasons for the lowsec /NPC nullsec stay, it gives you & your corp time to built up diplomatic ties with the nullsec forces that sometimes venture in those regions.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#6 - 2015-03-12 00:06:28 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Brave didn't get there on their own, they got protection and support from some of the big null groups to do so, just as a note.

That's why it kind of sucks.
Daerrol
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-03-24 14:34:55 UTC
Before even trying to take over Null, start easy. Take on Khanid, or Molden Heath or Genesis. If you can take over one of those regions, then you can look at attempting to take over a WZ (Amarr/Minmatar area or the Cal/Gal area.) If you can become a very strong power in those regions, then there's probably a section of 0.0 you could invade and you will probably know how to do it by then.