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Bouncers - weird?
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Katherine Gray
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-03-24 12:50:25 UTC
Somehow my bouncers are hitting alot better now.
And i mean alot. More applied damage.

Is that just me?
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
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#2 - 2015-03-24 12:58:15 UTC
nope me too
Captain Awkward
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-03-24 12:58:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Awkward
From the patch notes :

Quote:
Optimal range of Bouncer sentry drones have been reduced by 14.3%. The same range has then been added to their falloff.


But that should be negative right ?
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-03-24 13:03:35 UTC
They will probably be relatively unchanged unless you are shooting at super extreme ranges.

Bouncers would happily shoot and hit stuff out to 120km at times. I imagine that now, they might still hit at that range, but the quality of the hits will be much worse.
Katherine Gray
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-03-24 13:08:25 UTC
Kiandoshia wrote:
They will probably be relatively unchanged unless you are shooting at super extreme ranges.

Bouncers would happily shoot and hit stuff out to 120km at times. I imagine that now, they might still hit at that range, but the quality of the hits will be much worse.


Thats just the thing... i'm using 2 Domis with Bouncers, and even shooting at targets at 110-120km range seems to work better, closer targets get hit even better somehow.

I don't know if i'm just imagining this, but something feels off. ^^
Ryder 'ook
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-03-24 13:10:56 UTC
Algebraic sign error?

Optimal +14% AND Falloff +14% ??

Might be something simple like that...

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Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#7 - 2015-03-24 13:11:24 UTC
actually beyond the optimal + fall off range you should hit better now
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-03-24 13:11:42 UTC
Oh maybe they broke it or maybe you are just imagining it or maybe the Dominix is still op =p
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#9 - 2015-03-24 13:13:52 UTC  |  Edited by: War Kitten
If you were using them in falloff before, yeah they probably hit harder now due to a larger and flatter damage curve. Taking range away from optimal and adding the same amount to falloff actually extends the maximum range of the damage application because drones/guns do damage out to twice their falloff + optimal.

Edit: I should say if you were using them beyond optimal + falloff, they should feel a bit buffed. Anywhere between optimal and optimal+falloff they would feel a tad weaker most likely.

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Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#10 - 2015-03-24 13:16:58 UTC
If you count the 3% hit rate "doing damage" at 2x fall off + optimal range
Katherine Gray
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-03-24 13:38:03 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
If you were using them in falloff before, yeah they probably hit harder now due to a larger and flatter damage curve. Taking range away from optimal and adding the same amount to falloff actually extends the maximum range of the damage application because drones/guns do damage out to twice their falloff + optimal.


Ya, i was suspecting that kinda thing... so its practicly a hidden buff as long as u use bouncers for what they were inteded to be used. Range. ^^
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-03-24 16:08:50 UTC
For a given range, they also have a marginally better chance to hit, assuming all other factors remain equal.

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Ryder 'ook
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-03-24 16:19:27 UTC
For any given range beyond optimal, that is...

Lol

(sorry mate. couldn't resist)

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