Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Please no, not fight in the sun. It hurts your eyes to stay too long near those stupid glowing balls.

So... what you're saying is that if you lock the defenders in their station with a big honking fleet so they can't respond, then Trollceptors are an unstoppable force that will burn all in their path? Huh. Looks like it take someone preventing the defender's response to make them work "properly".

And what's to stop that alliance from just popping out in their own Trollceptors and counter-linking you?

Besides, I think Fozziesov is basically expecting everyone to light the whole world on fire and seeing what comes out of the ashes. Your insistence that everyone else wants to see things nice and stable - and doesn't just want to burn everything down right beside you - is fairly narrow minded IMO.

Err no Fozziesov is a big rainbow melange of pathetic FW rubbish with a side of wh stupid in which little groups gather once a day to fend off the hordes from the gates of their hovel system/constellation before returning to their homes to do wtf ever. What Fozzie wants is tug of wars over sov and little fights to have meaning. Which is pathetic, but hey some people love and excel at snall gang and get prissy when I don't give them no respect so they whine like a dog in heat and we get the abomination we have here. Fozziesov a grab bag of every small gang losers wet dreams rolled into one, fights on demand for them: delayed local so they can more easily polish their epeen ganking ratters and miners and the ability to stick it to the man cause too much ehp makes smallgang loser nash and wail and grind their teeth. So little that elite pvp can do to so mucb ehp. Sad face for them.

But I digress. As for what I said, you again think to small and narrow, its the blinkers from fighting on such a small and little horizon that is by definition small gang warfare.

When we hell camped Nulli we destoyed interdiction nullified tengus and inties. Stack enough remote sebos on a keres piloted by a dude in london with fiber optic and he can tackle an inty.

You just don't seem to get we will be rollling fleets of troll ceptors. One group may resist for a bit, but we will grind them down. Any tactic they can use, we can too and we can put 10 times the number of pilots on a grid if we realky want to ruin someones day.

Dominion sov had an EHP wall that we could not concur, the wall was too high. Remove that and malcannis law still applies and we have a lot of old players to complement our baby bees.

I chuckle when I read your posts. Were you home schooled or something?

Real life gives a perfect example of why your arguements are false. I am the School Bully, you are a weedy first grader and I want your dinner money. For what reason? Because I can and there is damn all you can do about it.

Nothing is going to burn, except maybe Massadeath's pride when he fail to be relevant. The major alliances are as close as you can get to friends despite the ingame hurf derp and they all have too much invested to allow it to burn.

Sure you might see some regions become unstable (Fountain/Delve, P Fall, Catch) but I would put serious money on the major blocks going into turtle mode.

Why am I going to come **** with you? Cause I can and there is nothing you can do about it. TrollSov '15.

I'm betting there's a large segment of the EVE population that has an interest in burning the current stagnant null to the ground, but have been unable to make an impact due to EHP Walls of Doom. Those are the folks you need to worry about, not your breast buddies in B0TLRD that are too gutless to take on big challenges.

We know that the big blocs have no interest in fighting to destabilizing the status quo. That's why we're happy that a Fozziesov system that allows us to screw with your space is coming, that negates the need to be in a big bloc in order to impact the holdings of a big bloc.

Troll away. I'm certain that there are plenty of folks who are looking to troll you in return.

In fact, for Gevlon and his crusade, this seems like a golden opportunity. Offer RF bounties to folks who RF structures in Ebil CFC space, and bigger bounties to those who cause iHubs / TCUs to go boom. Seems like low barrier of entry + built up resentment + isk rewards could cause just as much havoc if not more than paying Marmites.

If it wasn't optimal now, you wouldn't be living there.

Working as intended, then.

At least one counter exists, then.

Sure it does, it means the Trollceptor can't disengage while it's active, giving me up to 2-5 minutes to pin it down and kill it. Ya'll also put a lot of faith in grid-fu in the age of combat probes on overpropped T3 destroyers. Not to mention your Trollceptor's not going to be able to cover 400-500km unmolested if the defender is at all competent.

OP SUCCESS!

Yup, comes down to attrition and resupply issues. And, at 100mil a pop for the T2 linked version, it beats the hell out of chasing sub-2 mil isk stabbed farmer alts. I'll hunt those tasty 100mil isk killmails any day of the week in comparison, especially if they come to my doorstep.

Part of the whole point of Fozziesov and this module is to lower the barrier to entry for sov harassment to the point where literally anyone with an axe to grind in the entire New Eden cluster is now able to harass sov holders of any size - as opposed to being locked out of the game because they don't have supercap dominance.

What fact? I fully agree that Trollceptors are excellent ways to penetrate defended sov space and harass sov holders, with the very real ability to impact sov holdings if the defender is incompetent or unable to respond. I also fully agree that they've got massive potential for trolling the hell out of sov holders that are incompetent, inactive, or too large to properly defend their space. I also doubt they'll be an issue for active, competent defenders. Gewns keep claiming they won't have an issue dealing with them even while claiming they have no counter, for instance.

What I disagree with the poor poor widdle Gewns on is that I believe it is absolutely critical to allow Entosis Links on Interceptors for the sole purpose of providing a cheap, accessible, fast, platform that can travel quickly and easily evade bubbleinstalockhelldeathgatecamps, for the sole purpose of allowing essentially anyone to contest sov anywhere with minimal barriers to entry.

The fact (that you again, unsuccessfully are trying to hide from the reader) is even if the defender is competent and is able to respond, trollceptor will just burn away and break grid in most of the cases, and even if it somehow magically gets caught (because it sure as well is not going to get caught in ANY gatecamp) it's just a throw-away, cheap ship.

You reword your posts to make the reader believe into trollceptor can be countered to manipulate his opinion. Again, this shows that you treat the readers following the posts as idiots who won't see through someone lying out of his teeth.

The problem is not about barrier to entry, the problem is that this sort of shortsightedness brings a no-commitment and no-risk ability to troll any sovereignty holder.

I don't think anyone looks kindly upon this sort of manipulation and deception, aimed at saving an obviously broken combination such as the trollceptor by someone who is hoping to exploit such a broken mechanic post-patch.

With that logic (if one can call it so somehow), let's get various POS bawling expoits, all POS duping exploits, FW forex LP exploit back into the game too along with fozzietrollceptors!

Because anyone can use those exploits, and that alone justifies their existence, according to your... well... extraordinarily special mind.