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LP Store Idea - Trade LP for Faction Standing Recovery

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Jonas Kanjus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-03-14 17:19:10 UTC
Hello Eggers,

I was sitting here thinking about a less mundane method in recovering standings with factions one might have a negative standing with. I know there is an outlined "Plan" to help recover, but what if the Factions' LP Store offered a way to get an extra 1 to 10% boost until the player is at or above 0; after which, the boost is no longer offered.

Now since a player will only have access to Career Agents, Event Agents and Level 1 Agents until their standing has recovered enough to move on to higher level agents, I was thinking the LP trade off should be fairly small and easy to obtain. Let's say for every 1000 LP earned, a player can trade it for a 1% standing increase with that faction. If a player saves their LP and has earned 10,000 LP, then they could trade it for a 10% increase. This would allow a seasoned player to by-pass the Career and Event Agents and work with the agents in the field of interest. If the player has the proper Social skills trained, getting out of the red with the faction should be pretty simple.

I feel having a system like this implemented would encourage players to be more pro-active about their standings and it should take less time to recover negative standings and allow the player to progress with the faction properly.

Just to recap:
* LP conversion would only be offered as long as the player has a negative standing with a faction they are wanting to recover.
* Suggested conversion rates are as follows: 1000 LP = 1% boost; 10,000 LP = 10% boost (Subject to change)
* This system should reduce the time spent recovering negative standings and allow the player to progress to better agents faster

Thank you for reading my idea.

My start date to EVE Online: 6/25/2005 8:24:57 AM UTC

Iain Cariaba
#2 - 2015-03-14 17:22:11 UTC
So I go to nullsec, drop an ESS, and in a couple days farm enough LP to bring my standing from -10.0 to 10.0, ten times over.

Idea not supported, just go farm tags.
Jonas Kanjus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-03-14 17:24:42 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
So I go to nullsec, drop an ESS, and in a couple days farm enough LP to bring my standing from -10.0 to 10.0, ten times over.

Idea not supported, just go farm tags.


I guess you didn't read the part where the LP to Standing Increase conversion would stop once you reached a 0 standing with the faction.

My start date to EVE Online: 6/25/2005 8:24:57 AM UTC

Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2015-03-14 17:26:24 UTC
I have a million CONCORD LP I can quite easily convert to any empire faction.

Getting out of the red wouldn't even matter to anyone who's run more than one incursion. Should it really be that easy to avoid anything even resembling a consequence?
Jonas Kanjus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-03-14 17:32:34 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
I have a million CONCORD LP I can quite easily convert to any empire faction.

Getting out of the red wouldn't even matter to anyone who's run more than one incursion. Should it really be that easy to avoid anything even resembling a consequence?


The LP conversion would only apply to the faction you are working for. Currently, no one can convert LP from one faction to another. For example, a player has spent quite a bit of time working for Caldari and has negative standing towards Gallente. Suddenly, the player wants to work for Gallente. Well, in order to recover the negative standings, the player has to go through all the Career Agents and Event Agents (faction specific) plus train Diplomacy and other Social skills to recover.

My start date to EVE Online: 6/25/2005 8:24:57 AM UTC

Lugh Crow-Slave
#6 - 2015-03-14 17:39:46 UTC
Jonas Kanjus wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
I have a million CONCORD LP I can quite easily convert to any empire faction.

Getting out of the red wouldn't even matter to anyone who's run more than one incursion. Should it really be that easy to avoid anything even resembling a consequence?


The LP conversion would only apply to the faction you are working for. Currently, no one can convert LP from one faction to another. For example, a player has spent quite a bit of time working for Caldari and has negative standing towards Gallente. Suddenly, the player wants to work for Gallente. Well, in order to recover the negative standings, the player has to go through all the Career Agents and Event Agents (faction specific) plus train Diplomacy and other Social skills to recover.



please learn mechanics concord lp can be converted to other LP
Iain Cariaba
#7 - 2015-03-14 17:42:53 UTC
Jonas Kanjus wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
So I go to nullsec, drop an ESS, and in a couple days farm enough LP to bring my standing from -10.0 to 10.0, ten times over.

Idea not supported, just go farm tags.


I guess you didn't read the part where the LP to Standing Increase conversion would stop once you reached a 0 standing with the faction.

Oh, in that case:

So I go to nullsec, drop an ESS, and in a couple days farm enough LP to bring my standing from -10.0 to 0.0, twenty times over.

Idea still not supported, just go farm tags.

Jonas Kanjus wrote:
The LP conversion would only apply to the faction you are working for. Currently, no one can convert LP from one faction to another. For example, a player has spent quite a bit of time working for Caldari and has negative standing towards Gallente. Suddenly, the player wants to work for Gallente. Well, in order to recover the negative standings, the player has to go through all the Career Agents and Event Agents (faction specific) plus train Diplomacy and other Social skills to recover.

Oh, so you want to change the way Concord LP works too? Concord LP converts to any faction's LP, regardless of what you want to spend that LP on.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2015-03-14 17:59:52 UTC
Jonas Kanjus wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
I have a million CONCORD LP I can quite easily convert to any empire faction.

Getting out of the red wouldn't even matter to anyone who's run more than one incursion. Should it really be that easy to avoid anything even resembling a consequence?


The LP conversion would only apply to the faction you are working for. Currently, no one can convert LP from one faction to another. For example, a player has spent quite a bit of time working for Caldari and has negative standing towards Gallente. Suddenly, the player wants to work for Gallente. Well, in order to recover the negative standings, the player has to go through all the Career Agents and Event Agents (faction specific) plus train Diplomacy and other Social skills to recover.


1 million CONCORD LP is worth 800k LP for any empire faction, simply by pressing the 'convert LP' button.

It's worth 400k for SoE too, and...I forget who else you can convert to.

Under your system, I could just convert the LP my alt has to Gallente, and fix her -7 Gallente standing in a heartbeat. Why is that good?
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#9 - 2015-03-14 21:46:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Donnachadh
-1 to another bad idea on standings because I am to lazy or it is to boring to go repair it the way the game is set up now.

Choices and consequences is the goal here. You choose to do something in game that drove your faction standing down and you probably had fun while you were doing it. Now that it is time to pay the consequences for your actions you want a get out of jail free card? No way.