Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I've been rolling this around in my head some more.

I still think that buying sill points with PLEX, Aurum, or ISK is a horrible idea.

I still think that most forms of skill point remapping (including the one I proposed here) would require such a radical change of the character system in EvE as to not be worth the effort considering the gains involved.

Yet, I still feel that some way should exist to adapt to changes that CCP has made to certain skills over the years. Anchoring V is my prime example: it's still technically useful, but after the requirement for Starbase Defense Management got dropped to Anchoring IV, Anchoring V is widely seen as far less useful.


So this is what I propose:

1. Once a year (just like attribute remaps), each character may reduce one skill by one level and reallocate the reclaimed skill points however they choose. These skill remaps would not be purchasable in any fashion.

2. Each new character would start off with a fixed number of "bonus remaps", just like with attribute remaps.

3. Violations of skill prerequisites would not be allowed. (i.e. no lowering Anchoring to III if you have Starbase Defense Management injected.)

I think this would accomplish the goals of my original proposal, a certain amount of "disaster recovery" for new players making mistakes and for changes to skills made by CCP, without allowing players to "game the system" and render attributes less valid. It wouldn't really allow for "old" characters like me to radically alter their skillsets because the most that any character could ever remap is somewhere in the neighborhood of 3.5 million skill points, and that's only if they have one of the racial Titan skills trained to V.

Using myself as an example again, the largest number of skill points that I'd be eligible to reallocate is roughly 1.7 million by dropping Gallente Battleship from V to IV. This represents about 2.5% of my total skill points (~69 million), or about 28 days of training with optimal attributes and +3 implants.


Thoughts?


EDIT: Added #3.

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my $0.02:

As one who is still climbing the Core and Fitting Skillpoint Cliff, I would certainly be prepared to spend some PLEX for faster training, however I think it should be subject to some very severe limitations.

Spending the PLEX should double your base skillpoint accrual rate, without additional implant bonuses. However, you should be limited in how many times you can do this for the one character or account to, say, no more than five times.

So for spending five PLEX, in addition to the regular subscription, I can get 10 months training done in five months.

This allows new players the opportunity to catch up on those basic skills that many bittervets trained so long ago that they completely forget how hard it can be to fit a ship up without the "all skills at V" that pretty much every fleet doctrine relies upon. The CFC Fleet Harpy is one example, without highly trained fitting skills (or an expensive implant), you can't fit the second mag-stab in the low slots.

Malcanis' Law be damned, the skillpoint system is beyond frustrating for new players.

I would still love to be able to use a PLEX to speed up my main character's skill learning. If we can already use a PLEX to activate skill learning on an alt, why can't we use a PLEX to speed one up? Think of all the PLEX sales that this would create.

There should be some limitations. For instance, only one character per account can be sped up at a time. The speed boost shouldn't be any higher than 50%, and you can only have one speed boost active at any time - no stacking multiple boosts.

It all comes down to: Do you want to use that PLEX to speed up one character to 150% skill learning speed, or activate an alt so you have two characters learning at 100% speed? You get more SP overall by using it on a second character, BUT if you prefer to play on only one toon, you can get him more SP a little faster by using the PLEX as a speed boost.

I realize this isn't a popular idea, but I don't think it would be game-breaking. If it gets more players involved in more aspects of the game earlier, why not? The fact is, high SP characters can do more stuff and have more fun than low SP characters. You can't even argue against that, because it's the truth.

Just posting to say that i am in favour of Isk/ plex for skillpoints. I cant see how it would harm anyone and it would help new characters catch up on the SP front.

I would like to get this character back to being able to use T2 large weaponry without having to wait till christmas for it. Alas at the moment i have no other choice.

I dont want to sell Snakebyte i want him to have more skillpoints ?

I dont really follow your logic.

How does selling or buying a character help my identiy as Snakebyte Jack acheive more skillpoints in a faster time frame ?

I put up with/do not mind most of the rebalancing, new ideas etc.

None of them have ever made me consider leaving the game.

The option to buy skill points would.

Hell, I do not really like the character spam - sorry bazaar.

To which I believe the most succinct reply is:



As to the Character Bazaar I've never liked it and the only justification I see for it is that much like PLEX it is a lesser evil. Better that than the unregulated and unsafe sale of accounts on markets such as eBay.

Or be patient and train it like everyone else has. A character has no purpose if it isn't created over time by someone. Bring in any form of bought/transferred/remapped SP and you start the slippery slope to simply getting rid of characters and skills entirely and just letting evryone fly anything whenever.

The player who is now higher in total SP has either been playing for that time and interracting with the game environment/other players and/or paying CCP for the privilege. The higher SP is reward for that loyalty and input to the game.

As I said I'm always sympathetic to those who couldn't play for some reason but how could CCP ever decypher a genuine case of inabilty to play from someone space rich or RL rich ewanting to buy SP and creat perfect character x, y, or z?

It wouldbe abused by those with the most money to keep themselves ahead of those who can only afford to pay one or two plex for an SP boost and the dynamic of pilots would shift from the current balance of low-medium-high SP chars to being much more heavily medium SP players and probably a lot more large SP players.

There is no way such an idea could be introduced without it being abused and reducing the whole point of characters and training in the first place. It's one of the things that sets Eve apart from other games and in my opinion is fine as it is.