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One would think that fights over these moons and other static structures would be the source of huge fleet battles in the future...

CCP Offices Monday morning.........

CCP Seagull: So.... Damage Control Jove Edition....

Would like to a be fly on the wall for this one.

The bolded part would indeed make a lot more sense with the current changes coming.

My big thing is the potential for griefing that we've gone a dozen rounds on - if that's addressed, then good.

But I have to say, after listening to some of PGL's ideas (and through him, Grath's) for how this can be made to work, in conjunction w/xttz's thoughts on the index-based Prime Time, there's a lot of potential here.

Delayed local in nullsec - yes, this would be a major PITA... unless there's an IHUB upgrade to bring Local performance up to the level of its performance in Empire.

Deployable 'Mobile Subspace Inhibitors', like the Mobile Cyno Inhibitor, that can let you counter that upgrade on a grid.

An IHUB upgrade that allows for the disruption of cloaking devices (either all of them, or just those owned by people who aren't part of the sov-holding alliance) - maybe by positioning 'Scanning Nodes' around the system.

That could then even be hackable via either a hacking module (which, apparently, the entosis link was originally going to be) or a Link, to be used by hostiles if left unprotected.

I think there's a lot of potential here if the 'why do people hold space?' question is addressed - and addressed beyond simply 'because they make X ISK'. ISK is nonsense. ISK can be made anywhere in the game. If I was only about the ISK, I'd go back to w-space. Lawless space is NPC null. Sov null is not lawless - the sovholder is the law. Sov null is empire-building. JB networks are Railroad Tycoon. The big fleets, the big fights, those are my part of the game - running the logi for a massive multi-fleet subcap encounter is just one of the most enjoyable things I've encountered in the game. Supercapitals Online is boring as hell, and everyone knows it - especially the bloc-level FCs on both sides of the current cold war.

Here's how the basic framework needs to work:

You don't need to give individual pilots reasons to hold sov. Individual pilots don't hold sov.

Give alliances reasons to hold sov - they'll take care of their pilots. Make holding sov one of the ways they can do that - give the alliances ways to not just make the space more profitable, but better to live in, ways to make the space desirable to live in, not just someplace to afk-rat.

I have to say if anyone is going to kill eve off its ccp fozzie. Completely clueless. Sorry.

CCP only wants to turn profits and make money. It's not rocket science.

Frankly this is a ridiculious standpoint. The "apex stakeholders" have been lobbying for literally years to improve nullsec, mostly in a way that wouldn't benefit ourselves. We lobbied about Technetium when we sat on the largest supply and were the one most likely to lose out, we've lobbied for the hammering of the Supercap "apex force"; us, the winners of the largest Supercapital brawl in the game, and therefore yet again, the one with most to lose. And it was us who first spoke of occupancy sov. We want the game rebalanced to address the things wrong with the current system (which is why, if you paid the slightest attention, we have not opposed the principle, just the utterly ******** loopholes in it).

Quite frankly, every time someone pipes up "the indication its good is because you oppose it" frankly only displays your own bias, that you have no intrest in a balanced system, you just want the guys on the top knocked off their perches, and to hell with what that does to the game.

Maybe you should have listened to the Metashow last night, where two of the leaders of the "apex stakeholders" raved about the principles of the new system, and talked about the bits they liked (you'll be surprised). They want a shake-up too, but not just any shake-up for the sake of it, they want one that is not utterly insane with large gaping holes that will be exploited to high heaven, oddly enough, by us.

I fully endorse all the supposed changes to sov and supercapitals made by CCP during the last week.

This is exactly what I wanted to see for aslong as I can remember playing this game - allmost 10 years.

I'm finally looking forward to join a 0.0-corp again with these new sov-mechanics.

Quick recap of the metashow and the toughts / idea's given by The Mittani / PGL / Lazerus Telraven / Nystrik

Sov warfare:

playerbuild module in space: "Warning Intel sensor" who gives a warning when neutrals enter your system - can be hacked and shut down by warping to it and hacking it shutting it down across a whole constellation.

playerbuild module in space: "Local intell sensor", shows who is in local just like now. can be hacked and shutdown by hacking it disables it across a whole constellation.

playerbuild module in space: "Status Effect module" This module can set to an effect to give positive or negative effects for fleets entering your sov, this forces enemy to fight your style and your doctrines with buffs, failure to fight in the ships the sov holder enforces gives your fleet a great disadvantage as in wormholes.

Smaller entitys can now force attackers to weird ship doctrines were the defender has trained for and are far more expirienced in then the attackers.

Capital ship Rorqual - the devour of rocks ( grath's idea ) The Rorqual can now swallow up rocks in siege mode.
This vessel needs protection from pvp pilots and gives a better purpose then letting it rot in a POS.

Many more ideas were given in The Metashow that were outright awesome and would make eve a much better mmo.

I wished CCP would have seen it and have a suprise for us in June that most of that stuff would be implemented.

"I've found your sleazebag.

She is at Jita IV - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant station in the Jita system, Kimotoro constellation of The Forge region."


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