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Well, that's rather the point of discussion, now isn't it?

Sorry but the subscription and population numbers do not agree with you. Neither CCP seems. So you are defeated.. EVOLVE or die.

Actually, while the occasional big fleet is fun, having more constant fleets going up, returning, picking up reinforcements etc mean that everyone can take a more relaxed attitude to the whole fighting a war thing. No more a "meet up at 2100 eve for a 3 hour standoff for nothing", but "log in, find a fleet that's about to go out, have a quick fight, go back".

As someone who's been in most large wars since before we lost DQPB to karttoon's tomfoolery, I actually think this'll be more enjoyable for most people.


Some people might want power, some people just want to be in visceral brawls.


I think the new system has learned a lot from the mistakes of seleene's system (which actually *needed* a flowchart to be understood; if that isn't a sign a system's bad I don't know what is), and I've tried to think of ways we can get into the same old 2kv2k fights where caps and up are the main thing by which you judge whether or not you'll actually win. I don't think this system will suffer from that.

If you see a way in which it can, however, now'll be a good time to point out specifics.

I was just talking about this. "Fun" is relative. What is "F1 monkying" to you is "wow, Im in a big space fleet, this is cool" to someone else. Some people are Gladiators, others are Soldiers.

The problem here is CCP not understanding that there is a fundamental difference between PVPrs who will end up in null and PVPrs who will stay in low sec or live in a wormhole.

I've lived under 2 different Sov systems (this new one will make 3), and the thing that keeps bugging me is that the developers make something intending a certain set of outcomes but what actually happens tends to be the opposite (time to link my all time favorite dev blog here, the one that was meant to make more fighting but actually turned null into a Renters Desert)

The problem isn't the intelligence of the developers (those guys are probably smarter than most of us), it's that their way of thinking doesn't quite fit with what they want to happen. You can't gerrymander sandbox players (like EVe players) into a set of behaviors, because sandboxers are the ones who want to DEFY set behavior. You can see this in Faction Warfare which is really just metagaming by a few space rich players/groups with armies of alts on all sides to make themselves more space rich lol.


TL;DR this new system will fail for the same reason Dominion did, you can't herd cats.

Guess that harder, boring and much more time-stealing mechanics are closer to die than to evolve.

How about having some alert sounds when inside stations of the systems being contested?

Some Incursion-like mood setting to make it more emersive would be a very cool thing to experience.

True that, but only if we survive MOA's invasion first!

We will survive, worst case scenario we have plenty of npc space in our regions to support us all, as agent missions are infinite and do not require any sort of mind-numbing mechanics to make living there easy. Hell, we might even move to jita for all I care.

On a serious note, I don't find the changes that bad considering what CCP has come up with through the years. Titans were already nerfed into the ground same as supers.

The major flaw of the system originates from CCP's assumption that Sov is currently worth having. It's not. People advocating easy conquering of space have never had any in the first place. They don't know that nullsec ratting makes as much isk/hr as mission running in highsec, they don't know how hard it is to move a freighter to install an ihub upgrade or the pain to keep towers and jump bridges fueled and the list goes on.

Sov needs to be vulnerable to small gangs, but to organized people not just any newbie in a 10m ship with an 80m module stacked on top.

In 2003 Kjartan Pierre Emilsson seeded the New Eden cluster with an algorithm, and the universe came to be.

Is CCP happy with the current Regions and in it the constellations and how they are linked together with stargates, etc for the next sovereignty system ?

Regards, a Freelancer

Yes, I have. Every single post. And I am sure some Dev's did as well.

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I don't see how this system'll make nullsec have fewer coalitions than it does today, considering the main reason we have 2 coalitions today is that the main way to actually win a war is to stuff as many nerds in as powerful a ship as possible into a single system. This system does away with most of that, and puts more focus on small, nimble fleets running around, which I'd postulate will turn into a lot of smaller, but more fun and intensive engagements.

And more coalitions, because not everyone in today's coalitions will be able to deal with eachother now that the threat of The Other Coalition keeping them in line.