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So, you're proposing changing the current meta, which requires large numbers of large, expensive ships to engage in Sov warfare involving mindless grinds to a new meta which allows large numbers of small, inexpensive ships to engage in Sov warfare involving mindless grinds.

Well, at least the defenders would get to choose when their mindless grinds are going to happen, so that's a step in the right direction.

As a point of reference, I am referring to the concept of a Trollceptor as mentioned on TMC.


CCP, unless you want Sov warfare to devolve into massive blobs of 'Ceptors, please either reduce the range of the T2 Entosis links or make their fitting requirements high enough that they cannot be fit to 'Ceptors.

They still be able to take undefened space without the use of the link, undefended is undefended. You got a hard time understanding words?
And yes null sec is supposed to be for the hardcore that's how it started a long time ago. It supposed to take more effort than high and low sec. And in returne you supposed to get more out of each system.

Ok, after reading over the article multiple times, I have come to the conclusion that this makes sov even less desirable for small entities. Here is why:

Entosis Link: pointless. Big power blocs can just put a super tanked battleship with carrier logi support and it'll never die in time

Independent sov structures: make the space easier to take, thus harder for smaller entities to keep

Prime time: terrible idea, sorry. Again, the whole big power blocs having more people on during their primetime. OR people putting it over DT and the defender gaining an advantage due to the interruption of DT

Capture Event: If I wanted to do FW, I'd do FW and not be in nullsec.

Freeport: good idea in thoery, but this just means the blob can dock up in station and clone jump out. 2 days later, they come back via clone jump with no penalties. Make them travel back for it instead. No freeport, thanks.

Occupancy Defense: this is probably the ONLY thing I marginally agree with. However, this simply gives more power to the AFK cloaker who does nothing in system but sit there 23/7.

All in all, I feel this is a jab at Providence, especially with the pictures of all the constellations. Regardless of that, I do not support this sov change as it does not address the elephant in the room: the reason to actually own sov. Can I live with this change? Yes. I just think it's a very daft "fix".

if you can take space and keep space u can have space it shouldnt take CCP giving it to you. provi is a great example of this they took the space they wanted and they defend it at all cost.

By waiting 40 minutes to reinforce, as opposed to some ninny slinging around a titan to circumvent all of that? Yeah, no. Defenders get the bonus, not the attacker, the attacker'll have to work for it.


The hardcore and the eager. Goons didn't start out hardcore, but they sure were eager.

Will I say CCP literally took about 30 seconds to come up with this idea and blast us with a wall of text...I think a few minor changes could make this more reasonable.

1) The only ships that can use the Entosis link should be Command Ships, Marauders, Carriers, Dreadnaughts, Super Carriers, and Titans.
-This puts a real value to actually messing with Sov. It is still entirely possible for small groups to grab sov, just not with 12km/s Svipuls or ceptors...you actually have to risk valuable (most importantly catch-able) ships if you want to RF something
-The army of alts that can be created known as 51-in-51 would not become an army of sov grinders. It requires a few months of training on a character prior to just bouncing into sov and orbiting a structure
-Since ships cannot receive remote repair while the module is active as well, it is possible to see a decent number of capital kills and good fights around them.
-To all the people who want "the little guy" to be able to aspire to SOV...that is like saying he should be able to run level 5 missions in his rifter or solo incursions. Why not? It's fair to him to have the same opportunity and make isk like anyone else...hell no. Take the time to train a ship to have a meaningful impact on the landscape of the game.


2) The base timer should be increased.
-Even if the timer were bumped to a 20 minutes base, that is more realistic for a defender to have a chance. There are not enough FCs in the game that care when sov benefits are basically limited to 25% fuel savings to have to be on with fleets every single day for four hours a day.
-This gives you enough time to actually set a fleet up, get guys in it, and fly to that system and fight. Not just show up and the cycle is finishing and suddenly right into a node battle.
-With the military/strategic/industry indices at higher levels, this means living in a constellation would actually result in a pretty defendable area. If it took 80 minutes to hit a staging system you are looking at the attacker having to have a pretty good force, along with the defender not just doing kitchen sink.
-You will literally just burn people out even defending one - maybe two constellations as it is currently. For four hours a day every day all those guys will be doing is bouncing system to system to defend sov.

3) The base cost of the Entosis link should be increased.
-A single person could fund an army of noobs flying into space with these every single day just trolling groups. Base price should be something like 100mil for tech 1, and 250mil for tech 2. This again gives real value to messing with sov. Small groups can easily get that isk together, but it creates enough of a drain that you cannot just constantly welp ships day in and day out across several regions just to mess with people.
-Yes large alliances can easily fund this, but again it goes back to over time the price increases. This equates the price more similar to SBUs but without the stupid EHP grinds. No one member is going to welp 20-30 of these ships over a month without a source of income elsewhere. (Also redirect to point one, where if the module and ship are valuable, it gives a value to wanting to attack)

4) There must be some value to holding Sov
-CCP, you have nerfed sov to the point where why would anyone hold the sov aside from Super Cap building or reaction farms?
-No one is going to constantly replace Ihubs or the upgrades you put in them to make it even remotely worth ratting/mining once an Ihub dies. It is far more feasible for anyone who makes isk ratting to just move to highsec and mission run...further reducing the 0.0 population and even less chance for "good fights" (ie killing ratters like CCP so desperately wants to happen)
-If no changes are made it will just be easier for every nullsec alliance to base in NPC 0.0 and protect their R64/32 farms with only maybe 2-3 systems of sov just for reaction farms.
-A ratting system that is below -0.6 true sec will not support more than 5-6 ratters. The new sov changes are trying to get people to condense where they live, but not giving an isk opportunity for living in that compact space. It is more efficient to just go run highsec incursions or missions when all the 0.0 to -0.5 systems will essentially be useless the first time an Ihub dies.

5) Whoever wrote the line "Defenders will also often enjoy the benefits of jump bridges, starbases, stations and other infrastructure spread throughout the constellation" really should be kicked in the balls and never post any idea again...EVER
-With jump fatigue as high as it is, why on earth would someone take a jump bridge repeated times over a four hour window to try and defend even a whole constellation? Those characters would not be able to jump or take a jump bridge for like 1-3 days if they were at zero fatigue already.
-This is literally a slap in the face to 0.0 players. You did a great job on limiting force protection, but pull some data...jump bridges are a one and done sort of thing now (maybe 2) before people don't use them again.

Let CCP kill null , no one care....

will you run lvl4's with me near jita after this null ruining release ?

Hear that boys?

It's the titan prices falling in a cascade of delicious NCdot tears.

Also, RIP renter empire, you might wanna merge NA in your alliance so you will be able to protect their space. So much for being elite.

The elections are still going on and this announcement CAN affect the chances of quite a few candidates, because let's be honest if this is what CCP is focusing on, then it makes sense to vote a nullsec CSM and maybe not so much the highsec or industry candidates. So I'm guessing they're shutting up in order to not affect elections any more than CCP already has.

Also, they haven't been "sworn in" so to speak. NDA is not signed, rules and regulations about what to communicate and what not to communicate haven't been gone over, so what exactly do you want them to post?

what you are saying it going to lock it to one sided again
most new player can not fly capital ships,

stuff like this will force new players to not want to play eve