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If you knew about this and allowed it to come to fruition as a CSM member...I'd shut up :)

the feeling I get from this is...

The whole system/idea feels really clunky to me.

Structure bashing has been moved to this Entosis thing and the timers seems to have been shortened but it is still the same kind of thing just dressed a slightly different way

Worthless space is still worthless space.

The multiple node things just means that larger alliances will be able to camp more people at each preventing smaller alliances/groups from getting a foothold.

The T1 Varient of the Entosis is Pointless

The Range of the T2 Variant is too long

They can take sov after spending almost a full week going at it with absolutely no response from the people living there, vs something which at the least just needs one guy to be there with a counter-entosis link to pause the capture process ... during a short "prime time" timeframe. Oh dear so sad.

i dont know about everyone else but i guess my question can be broken down into two parts about this patch.

1. if you remove structure grinds and reasons to call CTA's how do you plan on giving a reason for large scale fleet engagements? like it or not a large number of players actually play eve for these kind of ops and you are in essence taking those TIMERS away. yeah we will have POS's but i mean really if your not having a epic fleet fight in defense of your own space or not getting to kick butt with your bros kicking the teeth in of some lowly chumps whos space you want then why log in. to go 60 jumps on a roam and watch 15 cepters fly by you and only killing the one guy who didn't pay attention to his intel channel?

2. where does this leave capital and supercapitals? both in production and in uses? as it sits right now capitals are being used be it less than before the jump range patch but still people are still using them, but after this patch what would the use for a supercarrier be? what use would a dread be other than hoping someone brings a battleship fleet in range of them? what purpose do titans have other than shooting towers?
I understand CCP is going to be reworking capitals and i agree some major changes need to take place but i must say it better be good because as it sits right now all i see is capitals getting a kicking and t1 cruisers out performing. maybe ccp should leave sov for a bit and fix things that really are very very very unbalanced like sentrys, damps, bombers, cepters, maybe they should think about how a 30mil dictor can keep a group of 100 capitals on a gate for hours maybe look at bumping mechanics and how they have no base in real life or hell maybe look at doing something about highsec ganking.

my end point is im happy CCP is trying to make the game better but for gods sake of the thousands of things wrong with this game i think sov should be someplace near the middle of the list. lets fix these problems before we go making new ones

ahhh almost forgot. if you insist on this new module then make it only usable on one ship type like command ships.
ooo and your fix to ishtars does nothing and we still will be playing ishtar online take the battleship sized gun of the hac that's your fix.

After reflection, i am not sure i like the idea of the null sec changes. It just looks like to me that you've swapped grinding structures into something very similar to grinding Factional Warfare plexes.

I am intrigued to see what sort of game play comes when you unlock the new features associated to additional "system" services. i see the only way to "give people their own piece of the pie" is to let people castle themselves and give them the resources they need. In other words let people put a moat around their system(s). There isn't much in the way of being able to "strategically" defend a system, all the idea's that come out are all about "strategically attacking".

Could be wrong though.

You know you could be onto something here. Another idea is to make "Your most active timezone" scale able to the amount of systems/constellations your alliance/corp holds. e.g. Alliance is across 10 systems, 2 constellations = 1.02 mulitplyer of additional active timezone. Make the amount of systems you hold directly related to the length of your vulnerability.

Mmmhmm it's smell like nullbear tears. Best tears ever !

I have a feeling that both developers and players mistakenly put too much emphasis on "planting the flag".

Why people come to null sec?
First and foremost, null sec promises greater wealth over empire space. Better rats, better asteroid belts, better moons, better planets even if all of this comes at a price – a risk of getting killed every time you engage in said activities.
PvP is another reason why people come to null sec – some enjoy living in a dangerous space, some enjoy being hunters, some simply like unrestricted PvP.
A struggle between the above groups of peole is what provides a stage for politics and wars. It's what largely powers industry and market. It forms an intricate machinery. Well being of null sec highly depends on flawless operation of said machinery.

On a most basic level, people form alliances in order to capture resources (ex. R64 moons) which in turn produce income allowing to better equip themselves, so they could capture even more resources and have a firepower to fight against other alliances who are doing the same. This is something humans have been doing for centuries. Sometimes wars could be sparked by personal conflicts between leaders of various groups, or due to ideological reasons, but more often than not people fight and kill eachother over resources.

Unfortunately proposed sov changes are largely neglecting the driving force of the conflict. Instead, we're getting battleground-esque game features with a sole purpose of showing who owns the system.

Stars, planets, moons, asteroid belts should be the object of sov warfare, not random arbitrary structures like tcu's, sbu's, ihubs, etc. Power of alliances should stem from their ability to control and extract resources, not from having their name displayed in a solar system information window.

CCP could introduce various grandiose deployable structures, such as Dyson sphere which would require an entire alliance to put a serious effort into building one, but once finished would provide a huge boon, maybe even something that could benefit entire EVE playerbase. For example artificial wormhole which could be used as a highway between certain systems for commerce or otherwise (think Suez Canal). Controlling such player built assets would be a serious driving force for cooperation and conflict.

I'm really sad that with having all those awesome creative people at CCP we haven't received much sci-fi features since Incarna (even though player base kinda enforced it) – it's either more fancier, better balanced ships, or more fancier ways to blow them up (which isn't necessarily bad).

I'm starting to drift off-topic...

TLDR; Please focus development on conflict over resources instead of arbitrary structures and gimmicky game mechanics.

No point in having skillpoints over a certain pvp degree.
No point in owning a station (besides other things) that is reinforced most of the time.
Bad idea for a game being forced to be online every day for a 4h window.

Btw. none of the roaming sov capture fleets want to own any space in null.

Player are already unsubbing these useless high skilled and high equipped accounts.
If you can't or don't want to be online 4h every day go to npc space or unsub.
If your corp is not big enough go to npc space or unsub.
If you are interested in industry only, never not go to null.

I see more empty systems and much less ppl. living in null than now
and similarities to games that don't exist anymore like SWG.

Large scale fleet are boring for people and hard for the servers. It have an important COST for CCP and it's unplayable for people: too many lags and each infrastucture improvement just increase the size of the large scale engagement and didn't resolv the lag and stability issue.

CCP just want less large scale engagment. And people just want less large scales engagment.