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Suicide ganking is shooting at ppl who don't shoot back, because you're scared. Making suicide alts is a result of being part of a group that blues 75% of the game and thus get bored, because you're scared and because you like your carebaring grinding grounds.

The solution is really easy, don't join a group that chose to not be able to fight anyone due to blueing everyone with 60 light years.

I dunno. Kinda sounds like he didn't really read the dev blog.

In a 50-150 man fleet you typically have <= 5 people who do anything besides pressing F1. Everyone is to shut up and listen to the FC - with the exception of maybe few accepted additional helpers like Logi anchor, scouts, secondary target caller...

Fleet members do not decide where they warp, they do not decide what they shoot and they certainly do not decide which fleet composition will be fielded.

With 50+ objectives, fleets will be less centralized and decision making will likely move down the command chain a bit (teh HORROR!)

Maybe squad commanders suddenly play a role. This could stop the tendency that people are afraid to be FC if there is just ONE FC in the alliance who is significantly better.
Plus their decisions will not ruin the entire fight, but maybe just cause the loss of a few ships or a squad.



No one says that it must be possible and easy to steamroll a whole constellation in one go (especially with defenders present).
With the proposed system attacker and defender are completely free to do or not to do what they like. Small battles only... but what happens if the defender places a Battleship with a cyno at each node?
Maybe the attackers now try to use links from 250km.
Both sides can escalate fights OR choose to avoid a direct confrontation and just capture nodes that are not contested by the other side.
The system basically only says: you need to establish military superiority in the target constellation for a certain (short) timespan - no matter how you do this.
This CAN be a decisive fight 50 vs 50, but if you have 50 and the enemy only has 20, they still have other options instead of blueballing.
Maybe they play whack-a mole with you, maybe they try to force you to use smaller ships and score a few kills or save at least some objectives.
I see the system makes attacking/contesting sov easy AND forces the defenders to actively defend AND gives parties more options than just showing up with greater numbers.
And THAT is the point.



What keeps the attacker from bubbling your station now while the first or second timer runs?
The only thing I see is that the first timer gains importance, because the defender will lose most of the defending advantage when they lose the first fight.

CCP has already said this is planned. The reason why industrial ships received the 90% bonus to Jump Fatigue is to buy them time until they are able to do a proper resource gathering balance to allow groups to live off null instead of relying on Jita so much. Once that happens the bonus to Jump Fatigue will be removed.

One step at a time my friend.

Fair enough. I'm not here to bust your balls. I just thought some of the questions you asked were funny.

The thing is, even if you land DIRECTLY ontop of the svipul through some kind of insane miracle, its burning at 11KM/s, which means its out of your scram range in a single tick, it takes an absolute minimum of 2 ticks (seconds) to lock something and activate a mod.

The best thing i can imagine is just hitting it with a 60KM web after a lucky warpin, but even then it can STILL burn out of range of any recon ship capable of fitting the multiple webs its going to take to kill it.

I'm also concerned about these structures being placed next to a death star pos. I feel like that raises the bar dramatically in what is needed to contest sov. To a degree that goes against the goal of having this new system become more available to non-bloc groups and enables AFK style empires.

Defending sov should require real players. Not some automated system to do the work for you.

Ihubs can only be placed on planets. TCUs could be placed on deathstar POSes but that's how it is now and somehow people take systems. Also, taking someone's Ihub and station and leaving them their TCU is a possibility. And it wouldn't be long in that scenario before the pack up their Death Star and go home leaving the TCU undefended

Guess I do think they are making this to easy, alliance need always to be ready to undock a fleet. If this don't mosty benefits large entities to be able to keep their sov i dont know who else than griefers it might benefit. Smal aliances cant keep sov unless noone wants it. But hey can be the Griefer in stead

That thing has an align time of 28 seconds - you don't need to tackle it. (would be pointed by the ento thingy anyway)
Just probe and warp on top of it with a long range ship. You'll then have a low EHP target with a 750m sig radius burning in a more or less straight line away from you.